Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua Wants Wilder - But He Wants The Fight in The UK

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Ha, apologies for not being more clear.

I meant in the sense of "who would want to be a promoter, hey?"

what with all the endless BS and chairs flying around and whatnot.

oh lol. Yeah, and the endless stream of egos you have to stroke. I mean De La Hoya and Canelo are a great example of a powerful promoter being at the mercy and whim of their fighter (which some do deserve). Sticking with the Cotto-Canelo negotiations. After those first negotiations broke down, they both went on to fight different people. Then Canelo agreed to virtually the same exact deal that he threw a chair over in the first negotiations. In his defense Cotto was known as a shrewd negotiator, Martinez found that out. After Cotto left Toprank, the only fighter to get over him on negotiations was Mayweather.

[apollocreed]

He came across Boxing in CANADA.He learnt his boxing through North American Trainers- Why do you think he was good ? Because he didnt have any British Trainers like Bruno did ? Lewis made a smart descion to pack his coaching team full of Americans like Emanuel Steward as they helped made him into a great.It's been said before-the only reason they switched to he is "British" was because Canada didnt have the Boxing Infastructure and therefore he had no choice but to move back to Britain after the Olympics- and he had to get fans on board.What better way-than to stay i am British as i was born here eventhough i havent been/lived here for 12 years

He chose to represent Britain because he wanted to, he considered himself British. If he wanted to represent Canada as a pro he could have done, Razor Ruddock did it.
This wasn't the point I was even making, so I'm not getting ****** into this endless argument. My point was that Lewis was based in Britain and had all of his early fights there, but understood that he had to fight in America to prove he was the best. Joshua should have the same attitude imo, but it seems if he could, he'd fight his entire career in Britain. I'm not a fan of Joshua and he's not a skilled boxer, just a weightlifting power puncher with a basic jab, right hand style and decent speed for his size. I've never particularly enjoyed watching him, Lewis had more skill in his little finger than Joshua has.

[Superarms1]

[B]I believe AJ is afraid to fly and scared of air planes.....p...u..s..s...y.

[Ray*]

There has been multiple posters on here arguing that Wilder is a nobody in America, U.S. ratings don't support that view. The original quote you responded to, was another persons response directed at Robbie Barrett





So you see? You have a person claiming that AJ is needed to make Heavyweight boxing in America, which is not true at all because Wilder is the most popular American Heavyweight in probably the last 20 years. AJ couldn't possibly revive American Heavyweight division because his ratings are terrible in America, and obviously, he's not American. So yes, you have people on here claiming that AJ would be a draw in America, and Wilder is not, when the raw numbers prove otherwise.

Still find this funny?

Yes I still found this funny, you replying to me in regards to AJ is not big in America, anyone replying to anyone with that logic should be laughed at, so Robbie says Wilder isn’t known in America so? Fact is up until now he wasn’t known, this whole Joshua thing has definitely helped him, but after 10 years as a pro he should be a better known athlete, a PPV HW after 10 years.

Going back to AJ of course he isn’t known and he wouldn’t be known, he has 21 fights and only came to prominence after the Wlad fight. So anyone claiming AJ isn’t known in America as a sort of “Comeback” IMHO should be laughed at, especially when you are using one or two posters to justify it.

For your information should AJ take that fight in America yes, why because he has been offered money that would be twice what he usually earn.

[ukbox]

He chose to represent Britain because he wanted to, he considered himself British. If he wanted to represent Canada as a pro he could have done, Razor Ruddock did it.
This wasn't the point I was even making, so I'm not getting ****** into this endless argument. My point was that Lewis was based in Britain and had all of his early fights there, but understood that he had to fight in America to prove he was the best. Joshua should have the same attitude imo, but it seems if he could, he'd fight his entire career in Britain. I'm not a fan of Joshua and he's not a skilled boxer, just a weightlifting power puncher with a basic jab, right hand style and decent speed for his size. I've never particularly enjoyed watching him, Lewis had more skill in his little finger than Joshua has.

I'm not completely sold on Joshua but more so than before.
Credit where its due, the uppercut against wlad was a peach of a punch, classic Lewis punch & he threw it as well as Lewis ever did in that round

[apollocreed]

I'm not completely sold on Joshua but more so than before.
Credit where its due, the uppercut against wlad was a peach of a punch, classic Lewis punch & he threw it as well as Lewis ever did in that round

That's one uppercut. Sorry but if you've watched any of Lewis's fights, you'll know he's in a different universe of talent to Joshua. I strongly believe that. Joshua's just a big stiff musclebound tree with basic technique. He's nearer Bruno than Lewis.
Lennox was a boxer puncher, he was big and powerful, but so much more flexible and mobile than Joshua. He also had great boxing intelligence. He could control guys with boxing skills or take them out early, he threw fast combinations. He had the full package. Joshua plods around behind a high guard and throws powerful jabs and one two's, it's nothing special. I've never looked forward to watching him since he turned pro.

[ukbox]

That's one uppercut. Sorry but if you've watched any of Lewis's fights, you'll know he's in a different universe of talent to Joshua. I strongly believe that. Joshua's just a big stiff musclebound tree with basic technique. He's nearer Bruno than Lewis.
Lennox was a boxer puncher, he was big and powerful, but so much more flexible and mobile than Joshua. He also had great boxing intelligence. He could control guys with boxing skills or take them out early, he threw fast combinations. He had the full package. Joshua plods around behind a high guard and throws powerful jabs and one two's, it's nothing special. I've never looked forward to watching him since he turned pro.

Like I said, he's not convinced me but has definitely gone up in my opinion. Credit where its due.
Lewis is an atg, no debating his skills or resume.
AJ does have an uppercut, can't not say it when it's one of the best uppercut thrown in a heavyweight championship fight.
I've always preferred fury & I think wilder is dangerous for anyone..see him sparking both fury and aj on his day...and losing to both

[Scipio2009]

Turning down $4 mil and $12.5 mil to make $2 mil makes no business sense. Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. You ******s should remember that before crying lowball. Wilder isn't worth that kind of money to anyone else.

Wilder-Whyte would've done a likely sellout at the O2, and Wilder-Joshua would've done ok on Box Office.

Wilder taking $4m on a fight that likely clears $8m-$10m makes no business. Joshua and Eddie Hearn split the take on Joshua fights 80/20 Joshua; discounts are understood, but why would Wilder ever split a fight with Eddie 60/40 Matchroom? lol.

[Scipio2009]

wilder don't want to fight joshua in the uk now and an offer was sent to wilde for that...he turned it down and now joshua is turning it down because he is the A-side ,4 belts , the ppv draw and stadium draw and the main side gets to choose where he fights......wilder ducked joshuas offer.
You was the muppet who was trying to say froch vs golovkin would not have sold out wembley stadium a few years back.
Still the same idiot talking the same bull**** i see.
As i said wilder is an obscure unknown heavyweight to the american public in general and that aint going to change with out joshua on his fight poster.
Read it one more time A-side vs B-side

Wilder didn't turn down the offer; he countered Hearn's offer (he's already gone public with his thinking of $40m-$45m being all the fight could generate for the fighters) with an offer that puts Anthony Joshua's take at being more than Hearn even thought the fight was worth in the UK. Not that difficult.

Gennady Golovkin, fresh off the biggest fight of his career, is such a non-draw that he and his camp were forced to leave Las Vegas, fight in front of maybe 7,000 people at StubHub.

Deontay Wilder is an obscure American heavyweight who has at least $50m backing him for a fight against Anthony Joshua. Be foolish if you want.

[Jimmy gold]

Wilder is a nobody he’s the worst current champion he’s a fraud paper champion aj will beat him silly and unify the division