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  • Scipio2009
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    #251
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    It's hilarious that the fans that defended Wilder turning down twice the amount he's ever made to fight Whyte in the UK are ****ting on AJ.
    The $4m to fight Whyte was a low-ball offer (Wilder-Whyte would've likely soldout the O2, done a respectable number on Sky Box Office, and come with a good bit of money from Showtime). And the $12.5m to fight Joshua was apparently also a low-ball offer, too.

    Anthony Joshua asked for $50m to fight anywhere, Wilder's camp not only found the $50m, they've offered $50m against 50% of the take (whichever is higher), yet now the money doesn't matter? Now that's hilarious.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #252
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      The $4m to fight Whyte was a low-ball offer (Wilder-Whyte would've likely soldout the O2, done a respectable number on Sky Box Office, and come with a good bit of money from Showtime). And the $12.5m to fight Joshua was apparently also a low-ball offer, too.

      Anthony Joshua asked for $50m to fight anywhere, Wilder's camp not only found the $50m, they've offered $50m against 50% of the take (whichever is higher), yet now the money doesn't matter? Now that's hilarious.
      Turning down $4 mil and $12.5 mil to make $2 mil makes no business sense. Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. You ******s should remember that before crying lowball. Wilder isn't worth that kind of money to anyone else.

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      • The plunger man
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        #253
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Deontay Wilder has the eraser; no matter how the start of a fight goes, if he catches you clean with that right hand, you're ****ed.

        Beyond that, there's no prime Larry Holmes for him to deal with. Break things up however you want, the best three heavyweight fighters are Wilder, Joshua, and Fury, Povetkin/Pulev/Ortiz are just below that, and then there's a clear gap to everyone else.

        If he's not fighting Joshua or Fury, I don't see a heavyweight fighter beating Wilder as long as his body holds up.

        With Joshua not wanting to fight, you keep pushing Bomb Squad; Wilder keeps engaging with the press, Wilder keeps flattening whomever in stellar fashion, the American audience sees this UK champion ducking the American, Wilder engages the public, keeps winning, and things snowball into themselves as the title defense count gets over 10 and Joshua keeps ducking the fight.

        You forget how nuclear Mike Tyson got when he finally crossed over from the boxing audience and how fast it took for Tyson to sit on ungodly sites of funds.
        wilder don't want to fight joshua in the uk now and an offer was sent to wilde for that...he turned it down and now joshua is turning it down because he is the A-side ,4 belts , the ppv draw and stadium draw and the main side gets to choose where he fights......wilder ducked joshuas offer.
        You was the muppet who was trying to say froch vs golovkin would not have sold out wembley stadium a few years back.
        Still the same idiot talking the same bull**** i see.
        As i said wilder is an obscure unknown heavyweight to the american public in general and that aint going to change with out joshua on his fight poster.
        Read it one more time A-side vs B-side

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          #254
          Originally posted by The plunger man
          wilder don't want to fight joshua in the uk now and an offer was sent to wilde for that...he turned it down and now joshua is turning it down because he is the A-side ,4 belts , the ppv draw and stadium draw and the main side gets to choose where he fights......wilder ducked joshuas offer.
          You was the muppet who was trying to say froch vs golovkin would not have sold out wembley stadium a few years back.
          Still the same idiot talking the same bull**** i see.
          As i said wilder is an obscure unknown heavyweight to the american public in general and that aint going to change with out joshua on his fight poster.
          Read it one more time A-side vs B-side

          Your definitely right about the A side vs the B side issues
          But Joshua coming over to this side of the pawn , let alone him winning , this would make him an international champion
          He’s got charisma and the look
          The guy would be all over the map
          Just huge imo
          By the way , that ( guaranteed ) would also propel the obscure Wilder , here and everywhere
          I see this fight as being one of the biggest money makers in 5he history of sports
          Just needs to get everybody rowing the same way

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          • Tygshsu
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            #255
            Originally posted by apollocreed
            Lewis started and based his career in the UK though, with a UK promoter. He built up his name fighting in Britain, and only went to America when he was fighting at title level.
            He wasn't a 'glorified North American' either. He was born in Britain, went to Canada when he was 12, then went back to Britain when he turned pro. All his pro fights were fighting under British nationality. It sounds like you're trying to claim he's American. Canada can make a stake a claim in his greatness, he lived there for over 10 years and fought as an amateur for them, but not America.
            He came across Boxing in CANADA.He learnt his boxing through North American Trainers- Why do you think he was good ? Because he didnt have any British Trainers like Bruno did ? Lewis made a smart descion to pack his coaching team full of Americans like Emanuel Steward as they helped made him into a great.It's been said before-the only reason they switched to he is "British" was because Canada didnt have the Boxing Infastructure and therefore he had no choice but to move back to Britain after the Olympics- and he had to get fans on board.What better way-than to stay i am British as i was born here eventhough i havent been/lived here for 12 years

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              #256
              Originally posted by stellen
              If im paying ppv/ watching a stream, i want this fight at 10-11pm. Fck the USA market. AJ is king now so the UK market should be satisfied first, then the US can pick up the scraps.
              That's fair! If you want to fight on British time so be it! But an American PPV at 2pm on a Saturday afternoon is not gonna make nearly as much money.

              Simple economics!

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              • 5000boxing
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                #257
                Povetkin might mess the whole show up! Hearns knows this..

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                • 5000boxing
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                  #258
                  Damn.. this entire comments section smells of fear piss and old bones.. aj don't want no smoke! Wilder puts fear in these cowards hearts.. cowardly fans will not help u in the squared circle.. only the ref.. but even he's not going to be able to save you from wilders right hand. Its over.. the gravy train is over!

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                  • stellen
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                    #259
                    Originally posted by 5000boxing
                    Damn.. this entire comments section smells of fear piss and old bones.. aj don't want no smoke! Wilder puts fear in these cowards hearts.. cowardly fans will not help u in the squared circle.. only the ref.. but even he's not going to be able to save you from wilders right hand. Its over.. the gravy train is over!
                    Only the ref? Not in corrupt america. Where even the fcking doctor helped a concussed wilder from being KTFO by ortiz , by giving him an extra 30 second breather! I bet the irony is lost on a dummy like you.

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                    • The plunger man
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by MulaKO
                      Your definitely right about the A side vs the B side issues
                      But Joshua coming over to this side of the pawn , let alone him winning , this would make him an international champion
                      He’s got charisma and the look
                      The guy would be all over the map
                      Just huge imo
                      By the way , that ( guaranteed ) would also propel the obscure Wilder , here and everywhere
                      I see this fight as being one of the biggest money makers in 5he history of sports
                      Just needs to get everybody rowing the same way
                      Bro as i said before joshua is the A-side and he has the right to choose where the fight takes place and all they have to do is agree a rematcn on wilders home soil and i see no issue with that.
                      so wilder in my opinion should face joshua in the uk 1st and only fair a rematch is then on stateside...they both make huge money in the process as well.

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