Vargas is excting???????

[ferocity]

ali was in a brutal fight with frazier ali lost and came back and had big fights.
vargas had two fights after and KOed wih in 10.
people are in big fights all the time they lose and come back. tito didnt break him he just have him his first loss

ali never had to make weight, he determined his weight, cutting weight takes a toll on the body and mind, as well as the wars a fighters has had, and ali was past it many fights ago, but people still loved seeing him fight, and ali was a fighter and loved to fight, ali pulled off some dramatic wins, but he should have retired long ago cause he was not the same fighter, i think it was after the second frazier fight that people say he should have retired.

[ferocity]

vargas does seem pretty average as a fighter

if you discount his heart and will and boxing ablity when he is on top of his game

[DiegoFuego]

Man, Vargas won his first title when he was 20 yrs old or some ****. He was a great fight until he was destroyed by megafights with experienced fighters in Trinidad and De La Hoya. You gotta admire his desire for taking those fights, but they cost him his career as a GREAT fighter. Now he's just gonna be remembered as a very good one.

[DiegoFuego]

How the **** can anybody watch Trinidad-Vargas and say, "Boy, Vargas is boring"?!?!

[moy22487]

he is good at making changes in the middle of the fight

[ferocity]

vargas does seem pretty average as a fighter

i started out in one of the gyms vargas came from, and till this day its stills a trip to think of how much vargas has achieved....its like damn, i used to train next to that guy, wish i never quit boxing, lol, he deserves where hes at, he let no one get him down and let nothing distract him, i hope he wins his next fight, i'll be rooting for him

[Bonafide]

Man, Vargas got knocked down 2 times in that first fight with Trinidad and still came back to fight till the 12th and make it close. Thats heart. He was almost out in the 1st and dug deep to come back !

[Bonafide]

i started out in one of the gyms vargas came from, and till this day its stills a trip to think of how much vargas has achieved....its like damn, i used to train next to that guy, wish i never quit boxing, lol, he deserves where hes at, he let no one get him down and let nothing distract him, i hope he wins his next fight, i'll be rooting for him

are you from Oxnard ?

[ferocity]

are you from Oxnard ?

yeah, im from oxnard, i used to train at the boys and girls club at 7th street where edwardo garcia and his boxers were now training cause for awhile they closed down La Colonia Boxing Gym untill P.A.L got involved and renovated la colonia boxing gym.

[Bonafide]

yeah, im from oxnard, i used to train at the boys and girls club at 7th street where edwardo garcia and his boxers were now training cause for awhile they closed down La Colonia Boxing Gym untill P.A.L got involved and renovated la colonia boxing gym.

thats cool. wuts up with Roberto Garcia these days ? he's not even that old. After corrales fight he went downhill...