They have to get other programming to justify that costs. With HBO you get Game of Thrones. With Showtime you get Billions. I'm not paying $20 a month solely for boxing. They need a rights deal with another major sport. The only way I'd do it is if I'm guaranteed 3 fights a month. And Hearn doesn't have the stable to satisfy what I want to see.
Randomly big fan of Spencer. Just threw him on a future title holder list in another thread. His lil bro is a bad motorscooter to, but is probably 4-6 years from turning pro.
But to the point there have always been 1-0 high level amateurs/promising pros on shows. I don't see how Haymon is doing anything groundbreaking there or why he'd have the market cornered. I mean 2016 was a pretty garbage year. I think "Also Ran" got most of the Olympic Team this go around unlike 2012 when Haymon did get them on lock. And Arum still came away with the prize of the US team, Shakur Stevenson, which if Haymon had them on lock for real wouldn't be happening.
I think I worded the bad PR thing badly here to have you go down a whole other hallway.
What I meant to say was that whole UFC model, iron sharpening iron, cream rises to the top means of building stars has a bad rep in boxing. I think there are many who've suggested it ruins fighters. Erikson Lubin being one such fighter mentioned as being ruined by some of the aggressive matchmaking that happens in the PBC between guys on the rise.
Boxing fans appear to believe the strategy of easing a boxer into slightly tougher & tougher matches while exposing him to different styles at a pace that'll take him from pro noob to title holder is about 3-5 years is the superior means of moving a fighter.
I mean Arum gets praised for days for that sh^t. But its a bs method of finding quality. What it does do is get promoters finding the best guys who can sell tickets & gets them cleverly maneuvered as much as needed to secure impressive wins & avoid rough challenging fights where an L could take place.
Meanwhile the real best guy in the division could be the 5th string guy in that same promoters weight division & never get a chance to prove himself as such til years later.
/rant cuz I was just ranting there for a lil while
Iron sharpens iron, which I agree with, but the mistake that the UFC made, imo, is that the success of their model was prefaced largely on having name fighters from other outfits come in, get ground up in fights, and then replaced with the next cast of outside talent; the UFC draws the fan's attention because no fighter sticks around long enough in the light to differentiate themselves from simply being a fighter.
PBC seems to go with that philosophy, but they're also being smart about it, imo. Erickson Lubin was moved along pretty aggressively, as were Julian Williams, Tony Harrison, Ryan Karl, and a host of other young fighters, to get a good idea of where he was at.
He gets stopped by Jermell Charlo in a tough fight, and everyone kept calm; he took some time off, came back against a durable guy who would let him work, will likely get another fight like that to make sure everything is straight, and will then likely get another fight against someone that's at the level that Jermell Charlo was, before being in tough fights until/if he gets beat again.
Records likely don't stay glossy forever, but you end up producing the best fighter possible.
3-5 years of padding fights is definitely excessive; rule of thumb caveat and all of that, but you truly only should need (depending on what the amateur experience was) 10-15 pro fights to figure out a general idea of what a fighter is working with. From then on in, you keep things competitive until you find out where the level is; if the fighter keeps winning, you keep raising the level.
Errol Spence Jr and Pritchard Colon were pretty good examples of this. They got the BS fights out of the way quick, and we're basically in test fights from about fight 14/15 on, with Pritchard Colon's run halted after a ring accident/foul in a tough and rugged fight with Tyrell Williams [Fight was competitive, which likely marked about where Colon was at that point; we don't know where that was since Williams simply stopped fighting, but fringe title contender may not be too off]. Keep fights at that level for a couple, and see if he can develop beyond that to the next level up.
Yeah I heard DAZN was expanding big time and coming to the US. This I like and will gladly Support because it is a different platform. NOBODY is sitting in front of TV's anymore, Streaming is the NOW it is not "THE FUTURE"
Yeah I heard DAZN was expanding big time and coming to the US. This I like and will gladly Support because it is a different platform. NOBODY is sitting in front of TV's anymore, Streaming is the NOW it is not "THE FUTURE"
So I'm all in for this!
How do you watch the fights you stream?
I stream from my phone/tablet to my TV. I need to see it on the big screen
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