Do people realize Hopkins went from age 28-40 undefeated?

[satiev1]

And majority of those wins were snooze fests and boring ud's.

[Madison Boxing]

How can you compare Brook with Tito??

Tito had 14 defenses at ww-DID BROOK??

Tito unified 2 titles at 154-DID BROOK??

Tito won a title at 160-DID BROOK???


Why the hell do posters try to compare Tito to Brook?

Noones saying brook is as good. But either size matters or it doesnt. If it doesn't, then beating an unbeaten brook has to go down as a very good win in your eyes. You can't have It both ways

[DreamFighter]

Brewer won the vacant belt against a can.
World Class opponent - Eric Lucas?

And you have the fúcking gall to criticise a resume, when you are saying ****** shít like this?

If any top 50 fighter in MW today fought someone like Grant it would have been seen as a cherry pick.
That USA title is worth less than the European title. So how about GGG's resume now?

if you win a world title, you have shown evidence of some world class.
if you win a US title, it can mean a ladder to a world title shot. contending for one is a rung below world title contention.
I have no problem with the euro being better than the US one.


Whilst Brewer is no shining example, hes not terrible, hes a transient, opportunity titlist, thats all.

As you can see I have no issue with facts as they are, unlike you.

sorry if that bothers your keyboard warrior limitations.

[KillaMane26]

But who did Hopkins beat?

Felix Trinidad wasn't a middleweight, (I mean the guy only had 1 fight at MW ffs) Tito started at 140 and peaked at 154.

If people are going to give Hopkins so much praise for beating Trinidad, a welterweight, then they must do the same for Golovkin's win over Kell Brook.

I agree with this...mostly bt Trinidad was HOFer.

[stealthradon]

if you win a world title, you have shown evidence of some world class.
if you win a US title, it can mean a ladder to a world title shot. contending for one is a rung below world title contention.
I have no problem with the euro being better than the US one.


Whilst Brewer is no shining example, hes not terrible, hes a transient, opportunity titlist, thats all.

As you can see I have no issue with facts as they are, unlike you.

sorry if that bothers your keyboard warrior limitations.

So let's see here:

Daniel Urbanski - Baltic Middleweight Champion
(Others include Dmitry Pirog and Andrey Meryasev - both undefeated)
GGG won by TKO in 4.

Ian Gardner - Contender for several belts against good competition. Chad Dawson, A. Abraham, Peter Manfredo Jr and GGG on the resume.
GGG won by UD

Malik Dziarra
International Boxing Federation Inter-Continental Super Middleweight belt holder
GGG by KO in 2

Javier Alberto Mamani
South American Super Welterweight
World Boxing Association Fedelatin Super Welterweight
GGG by KO in 1

Anthony Greenidge
NABC Middleweight
WBA-NABA USA Middleweight
GGG by KO in 5

John Anderson Carvalho
World Boxing Organisation Latino Middleweight
GGG by ko in 2

Milton Nunez
World Boxing Association Fedebol Super Welterweight
GGG by ko in 1

Nilson Julio Tapia
World Boxing Association Fedelatin Super Welterweight
World Boxing Association Fedecentro Middleweight Title
UD win against Heiland, MD loss against Trout,
GGG by ko in 3

And this is some of the weaker opposition of GGG.

[DreamFighter]

So let's see here:

Daniel Urbanski - Baltic Middleweight Champion
(Others include Dmitry Pirog and Andrey Meryasev - both undefeated)
GGG won by TKO in 4.

Ian Gardner - Contender for several belts against good competition. Chad Dawson, A. Abraham, Peter Manfredo Jr and GGG on the resume.
GGG won by UD

Malik Dziarra
International Boxing Federation Inter-Continental Super Middleweight belt holder
GGG by KO in 2

Javier Alberto Mamani
South American Super Welterweight
World Boxing Association Fedelatin Super Welterweight
GGG by KO in 1

Anthony Greenidge
NABC Middleweight
WBA-NABA USA Middleweight
GGG by KO in 5

John Anderson Carvalho
World Boxing Organisation Latino Middleweight
GGG by ko in 2

Milton Nunez
World Boxing Association Fedebol Super Welterweight
GGG by ko in 1

Nilson Julio Tapia
World Boxing Association Fedelatin Super Welterweight
World Boxing Association Fedecentro Middleweight Title
UD win against Heiland, MD loss against Trout,
GGG by ko in 3

And this is some of the weaker opposition of GGG.

opening with "baltic middleweight champ" isnt a good sell.

I can see you need some help, thought I was going too easy on you but thats not the case.

and to be fair, I'm not the one claiming anyone has fought poor opposition, so I am not sure what you are chasing here, but it seems to keep you busy so good luck with it.

[stealthradon]

opening with "baltic middleweight champ" isnt a good sell.

I can see you need some help, thought I was going too easy on you but thats not the case.

and to be fair, I'm not the one claiming anyone has fought poor opposition, so I am not sure what you are chasing here, but it seems to keep you busy so good luck with it.

baltic middleweight champ is better than losing USA title.

[DreamFighter]

baltic middleweight champ is better than losing USA title.

Its generally not, really. dont ruin the few points you have.

[Larry the boss]

noones saying brook is as good. But either size matters or it doesnt. If it doesn't, then beating an unbeaten brook has to go down as a very good win in your eyes. You can't have it both ways

brook has done nothing in his career besides beat porter

[Madison Boxing]

brook has done nothing in his career besides beat porter

who was a highly hyped fighter at the time. you probs have crawford number 1 p4p and hes not beat anyone as good as porter.