Do people realize Hopkins went from age 28-40 undefeated?

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  • DreamFighter
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    #61
    Originally posted by stealthradon
    Win ratio against such great great fighters such as
    Roland Rangel 20-16
    Urbano Gurrola 18-9
    Kevin Tillman 20-9
    Anthony Ivory 32-78
    Lawrence Chapman 19-6
    Kabary Salem 23-5
    Oscar Bravo
    Richard Grant 19-15
    Andre Haddock 14-3

    Absolute legends every single of them.

    Which were the world class bouts?
    brewer salem lucas grant

    Just out of curiosity now you've obviously lost the argument, may I ask -
    whats your motivation in still arguing against the overwhelming evidence? is it that you are a diehard GGG fan? uwillingness to lose face on a forum? ******ity? its so bizarre to watch.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #62
      tito was a welterweight lol 'big win' you must rate the brook win then, especially considering it turns out hes more of a 154 fighter.

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      • stealthradon
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        #63
        Originally posted by DreamFighter
        brewer salem lucas grant

        Just out of curiosity now you've obviously lost the argument, may I ask -
        whats your motivation in still arguing against the overwhelming evidence? is it that you are a diehard GGG fan? uwillingness to lose face on a forum? ******ity? its so bizarre to watch.
        So Charles Brewer a journeyman.
        Brewer got the IBF fighting Gary Ballard.
        What a joke.
        Just 3 fights before he fought a debutante.
        Then a 11-34 guy
        And then a 9-5 guy.

        Salem?
        Are you for real?
        Just because he killed a tomato can?
        Or was it his amazing victory over 6-8 Troy Barnes or 18-14 Fabian Garcia ?

        He drew the fight with Lucas.
        He came off fighting a 14-25 and scraping by a 12-2

        Richard Grant?
        Are you serious?

        What's your motivation for thinking these bums are worth anything?

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        • HandsofIron
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          #64
          Originally posted by larryxxx..
          He got his big win against TITO WHEN HE WAS 36!!!! AND DID NOT LOSE TILL HE WAS 40 AGAINST TAYLOR!!!! Yet GGG fans alreay want to use his age as an excuse yet are trying to slam Hopkins??? THEN AFTER 40 HE EVEN MOVED UP!!!!!!!!!!!! AND WON MORE TITLES!!!
          But who did Hopkins beat?

          Felix Trinidad wasn't a middleweight, (I mean the guy only had 1 fight at MW ffs) Tito started at 140 and peaked at 154.

          If people are going to give Hopkins so much praise for beating Trinidad, a welterweight, then they must do the same for Golovkin's win over Kell Brook.

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          • Zaryu
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            #65
            BHop is a legend

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              #66
              Originally posted by HandsofIron
              But who did Hopkins beat?

              Felix Trinidad wasn't a middleweight, (I mean the guy only had 1 fight at MW ffs) Tito started at 140 and peaked at 154.

              If people are going to give Hopkins so much praise for beating Trinidad, a welterweight, then they must do the same for Golovkin's win over Kell Brook.
              How can you compare Brook with Tito??

              Tito had 14 defenses at ww-DID BROOK??

              Tito unified 2 titles at 154-DID BROOK??

              Tito won a title at 160-DID BROOK???


              Why the hell do posters try to compare Tito to Brook?

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              • Bjl12
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                #67
                Originally posted by Jubei
                At that time Bernard already had 2 losses on his record, vs Roy Jones (no shame) and Clinton Mitchell (a nobody) and had a draw vs a total bum, Segundo Mercado.

                Tell me, Larry, which really good Middleweights (Tito was his best win, but he just moved up from 154) did Bernard beat?
                Glen Johnson (undefeated Glen), JDJ, DLH, Vanderpool

                All of those wins are better than anything Gennady has done his entire career. Sadly

                Gennady wins controversial decision against Jacobs...runs from rematch. Gennady is lucky to get draw against Canelo...runs from rematch. Now he's fighting a JMW whose coming off a loss and a 2 YEAR LAYOFF...fighting on 2 weeks notice.

                What a hero.

                Wouldn't be significant if Dervechenko, Andrade, and Sullivan were openly calling him out :/

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by larryxxx..
                  How can you compare Brook with Tito??

                  Tito had 14 defenses at ww-DID BROOK??

                  Tito unified 2 titles at 154-DID BROOK??

                  Tito won a title at 160-DID BROOK???


                  Why the hell do posters try to compare Tito to Brook?
                  Yeah, I don't get it. It has to be desperate trolling. No one can be that dumb right?

                  I don't think these people understand how this just makes GGG look worse.

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                  • DreamFighter
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by stealthradon
                    So Charles Brewer a journeyman.
                    ah so a titlist is a journeyman, in order to fit your agenda. so does that mean journeymen are titlists too?
                    idiot.

                    Salem?
                    he has challenged for world titles on multiple occasions sure. not a stellar example, but you asked for title level type challengers wins.


                    He drew the fight with Lucas.
                    so he matched the level of a world class opponent.


                    Richard Grant?
                    a loser of a USA title is not a bad opponent, though not good.

                    What's your motivation for thinking these bums are worth anything?
                    my motivation is you not realising the difference between an 80% win ratio and a 20% win ratio. You sure are dumb not to know the difference between 80 n 20, but my mum says i gotta be kind to my dumb friends.

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                    • stealthradon
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by DreamFighter
                      ah so a titlist is a journeyman, in order to fit your agenda. so does that mean journeymen are titlists too?
                      idiot.

                      he has challenged for world titles on multiple occasions sure. not a stellar example, but you asked for title level type challengers wins.


                      so he matched the level of a world class opponent.


                      a loser of a USA title is not a bad opponent, though not good.


                      my motivation is you not realising the difference between an 80% win ratio and a 20% win ratio. You sure are dumb not to know the difference between 80 n 20, but my mum says i gotta be kind to my dumb friends.
                      Brewer won the vacant belt against a can.
                      World Class opponent - Eric Lucas?

                      And you have the fúcking gall to criticise a resume, when you are saying ****** shít like this?

                      If any top 50 fighter in MW today fought someone like Grant it would have been seen as a cherry pick.
                      That USA title is worth less than the European title. So how about GGG's resume now?

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