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  • Butch.McRae
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    #51
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    The winner as part of sanctioning the fight was obligated by the WBC to fight Golovkin. Both Cotto and Canelo knew that when they signed the contract.
    Again, that was not in their agreement. The sanctioning organization cannot obligate fighters in the agreement to take specific future action in the sanctioning of their contest.

    That's why there was a separate agreement for Cotto and GGG.

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    • Street15
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      #52
      Originally posted by Butch.McRae
      I doubt it.

      What you're describing isn't something that would be in their (Cotto v. Canelo) agreement. That would be an unenforceable provision.

      Pretty sure that's why there was a separate step-aside agreement between Cotto and Golovkin.
      No, that's a fact. WBC stated the winner had to fight GGG. Gennady even allowed the Khan voluntary fight. After that, he said no more. And the WBC enforced it and gave him a deadline. So he knew before the Cotto fight if he won he'd be obligated to fight GGG. He knew before the Khan fight, if he won, he'd be obligated to fight GGG. This was not sprung on him in the last second.

      I almost would side with him if fighting GGG meant fighting for peanuts, if GGG was some no name high risk guy, if fighting GGG wouldn't guarantee him his biggest $$ fight ever. But, none of those are the case.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Usetoloveboxing
        My thoughts exactly. Derevechenko would have taken it on short notice, mandatory defense could have been handled. Vanes may be more dangerous, hope this little move doesn't backfire
        I've only seen clips of derevechenko but doubt vanes is more dangerous. I think it's a gimme fight for golovkin but who knows, it might backfire on him!

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        • Bronx23
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          #54
          Originally posted by Robi13
          oh trust me my dude I agree with you 100, problem i have is all these gggroupies accused canelo of ducking when canelo vacated so he can secure a bigger peice of the pie himself... but will turn around and defend this now...
          that is not at all why canelo vacated dude lol

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          • Street15
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            #55
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            They dropped it for unified fights didn't they, which is why they didn't do it in the Canelo fight?
            That's right. I think the IBF did indeed drop the 2nd day weigh-in right after the Jacobs fiasco.

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              #56
              On paper, Vanes Martirosyan is a legit opponent for Gennady Golovkin; the fight is not
              Bernardo Pilatti ESPN
              May 2, 2018:

              This fight should not be taken seriously, and I don't consider it a legitimate bout. It's not Golovkin's fault. GGG had so little time to pick a new opponent after Alvarez withdrew. Still, these kinds of situations in which a new contender shows up, even with the right amount of preparation, always carry a risk, no matter who it is.

              The reasons for Golovkin turning this into a mission to find an opponent to replace Alvarez instead of canceling the date and moving on are unknown. Regardless, it sets a dangerous precedent, and, above all things, it trivializes the credentials of a sport in need of strict authority that places fighters' health as its utmost priority. There are time frames that must be respected, no matter what.

              It is true that at the end of the day, professional boxing is a business. However, allowing it to stage exhibition bouts such as this one, with an opponent who will be nothing more than a supporting actor, threatens the legitimacy of this business and its own credibility.

              http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...vkin-fight-not

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              • Butch.McRae
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                #57
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                Originally posted by Street15
                No, that's a fact. WBC stated the winner had to fight GGG. Gennady even allowed the Khan voluntary fight. After that, he said no more. And the WBC enforced it and gave him a deadline. So he knew before the Cotto fight if he won he'd be obligated to fight GGG. He knew before the Khan fight, if he won, he'd be obligated to fight GGG. This was not sprung on him in the last second.

                I almost would side with him if fighting GGG meant fighting for peanuts, if GGG was some no name high risk guy, if fighting GGG wouldn't guarantee him his biggest $$ fight ever. But, none of those are the case.
                Read what I wrote buddy. You can't obligate a party to a contract to enter a future agreement with some other party where there is no consideration.

                If that were possible, then you would be able to block fights via contract provision. It doesn't work that way.
                Last edited by Butch.McRae; 05-02-2018, 12:16 PM.

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                • Street15
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by filup79
                  GGG fights this weekend and there's still a bunch of tickets left. Add to that he's making around 1 million for this fight. If the roles were reversed, Canelo would have sold out the StubHub by now and would be getting way more than 1 million for a fight. Canelo could fight anyone else and still make over 10 million while GGG would only make around 2 million to fight anyone else.
                  Not true. Canelo will NOT be guaranteed $10m purse fighting just anybody. To be honest, there isn't anyone at 54, 60, or 68 (as it's currently constructed) that Canelo will generate close to 1 million ppv buys with outside of GGG.

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                  • mdogger12
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                    #59
                    not to much in that empty head of yours is there because anybody with something up there realises you don't take a risk getting hurt or beat and then you are out million, damn dude..think

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Street15
                      Not true. Canelo will NOT be guaranteed $10m purse fighting just anybody. To be honest, there isn't anyone at 54, 60, or 68 (as it's currently constructed) that Canelo will generate close to 1 million ppv buys with outside of GGG.
                      What? Canelo could fight BJS, Jacobs, or Charlo, and still crack 1 milliin buys.

                      He sold 1 million for Jr. and that was a mismatch Lol if he fights a live body, it sells period.

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