Comments Thread For: GGG: Look at Hopkins; My Record's Much Bigger, Stronger at 160!

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Oscar and Felix both attempted to weight-drain Hopkins below 160! Unlike GGG, Hopkins agreed to the catch-weights, and still got stoppages over both! You're to focused on their weights, and not their talents! Floyd beat SWWs, but he was no SWW! Pacquiao beat SWWs, but he was no SWW! SRL beat Hagler at MW, but he was no MW! Skills pay the bills! GGG went on a mission for Cotto and Canelo! He wouldn't come down for the challenge like Hopkins did, and when Canelo fought him @ 160, it was a draw! I love Danny Jacobs, but he's nowhere near ODLH and Trinidad! He just went 12 with Arias and Sulecki FFS! He had problems with Sergio Mora, for crying out loud! GGG's resume @ 160 is not as strong as Hopkins, and GGG's legacy as a fighter will not even be in the same realm as B-Hop! SHOW SOME RESPECT!

I don't care about these catch weights, I don't care about what Floyd or Pacquiao did. This is irrelevant to the discussion. We are talking about Golovkin and Hopkin's middleweight legacies. Neither Trinidad nor De la Hoya was a middleweight.

Again: Oscar's only fight at Middleweight before Hopkins was against Sturm in a controversial decision, at the end of his career.

He went 12 with Arias and Sulecki, so what? They were both undefeated, and Sulecki is clearly a good boxer. How are you going to brag about JDJ being 32-0 to almost all bums when Sulecki and Arias were both undefeated as well, and that Sulecki actually had a decent resume when he fought Jacobs?

Mora problems? He battered Sergio Mora, twice. He got knocked down once--- so what? He won both fights clearly. You're absolutely insane if you really think Oscar would have beaten Jacobs at middleweight, literally, nobody here would ever agree with you. Hell, he would have struggled hard against middleweights like Murray.

When Curtis Stevens faced GGG, he was 25-3. When Lemieux faced GGG, he was 34-2, already been KO'd by Marco Antonio Rubio in 7 in his own backyard! When JDJ faced B-Hop, he was 35-2. B-Hop was so impressed with JDJ, he hired him to show him how to fight southpaw! When B-Hop beat Glen Johnson, he was 32-0! This is useless! What GGG said was disrespectful! GGG just had a draw with Canelo! His whole career is tied to Canelo! He'll never be anything like the Great B-Hop!

JDJ was 32-0... so?Have you taken a look at who he had beaten and their records? For ****'s sake, Curtis Stevens and Lemieux both had better opposition than JDJ if you compare when they fought Hopkins/Golovkin respectively, and it wasn't impressive at all. Bragging about JDJ being undefeated is like bragging about those Thai fighters with tons ofwins over so many bums, considering JDJ only fought gatekeepers/bums for like 31-32 of those first fights in his career.


I didn't say he would ever be anything like B-Hop. B-Hop is notable for his career onward.

All I'm saying is, as the topic states, Golovkin arguably had a middleweight career on par with Hopkins at 160 (whether slightly better or slightly worse).

[Joe Beamish]

What do you think about GGG competition at 160?

Jacobs and Canelo are better as MWs than anyone Hopkins defeated (or drew with.) Otherwise meh like BHOP's competition.

[Bronx2245]

Two smaller guys, yea, no problem.

B-Hop went down to their requested weights! He didn't drag them up to 160! De La Hoya was 155, and Hopkins was 156! Trinidad was 158.5, Hopkins was 157!

October 1, 2001:

Many talented boxers before Bernard Hopkins have stepped into the ring against Felix Trinidad with what they believed was the sure plan for victory. Oscar De La Hoya, Pernell Whitaker, Fernando Vargas, to name just a few. None before Hopkins on Saturday night, however, had executed their strategy so brilliantly.

Hopkins, a 36-year-old Philadelphia native who came into the fight as a solid if not huge underdog, dismantled the champion with a masterful combination of strength, quickness, footwork and textbook counterpunching. The end -- and the first loss in Trinidad's 41-fight career -- came 1 minute 18 seconds into the 12th round when Trinidad's father, trainer and manager jumped into the ring to stop the bout with his son struggling to get off the canvas after the only knockdown of the fight.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/2001/10/01/hopkins-basks-in-upset-of-trinidad/f89c9f19-a38e-4ace-a91f-544ae01d9492/?utm_term=.4a1e8b88029b

That's the stuff legends are made of! No excuses!

[Shadoww702]

Two smaller guys, yea, no problem.

Like Brook and Vanes???

[Chuckguy]

You don't get W's over people you didn't fight. Just shows how weak Golovkins resume is when you need to bring that up. No he didn't beat Canelo, that's a fact. Roy Jones ducked a rematch against Hopkins should we count that as a win over prime Roy Jones for Hopkins?

I knownhos resume is weak that’s not my argument pendejo
My argument is you are acting like Tito and Oscar are legit mw cause they had a belt yet you don’t and won’t acknowldede that ggg just beat the supposed lineal champ and the supposed lineal champ before was running scared that’s a fact

[Shadoww702]

I don't care about these catch weights, I don't care about what Floyd or Pacquiao did. This is irrelevant to the discussion. We are talking about Golovkin and Hopkin's middleweight legacies. Neither Trinidad nor De la Hoya was a middleweight.

Again: Oscar's only fight at Middleweight before Hopkins was against Sturm in a controversial decision, at the end of his career.

He went 12 with Arias and Sulecki, so what? They were both undefeated, and Sulecki is clearly a good boxer. How are you going to brag about JDJ being 32-0 to almost all bums when Sulecki and Arias were both undefeated as well, and that Sulecki actually had a decent resume when he fought Jacobs?

Mora problems? He battered Sergio Mora, twice. He got knocked down once--- so what? He won both fights clearly. You're absolutely insane if you really think Oscar would have beaten Jacobs at middleweight, literally, nobody here would ever agree with you. Hell, he would have struggled hard against middleweights like Murray.






JDJ was 32-0... so?Have you taken a look at who he had beaten and their records? For ****'s sake, Curtis Stevens and Lemieux both had better opposition than JDJ if you compare when they fought Hopkins/Golovkin respectively, and it wasn't impressive at all. Bragging about JDJ being undefeated is like bragging about those Thai fighters with tons ofwins over so many bums, considering JDJ only fought gatekeepers/bums for like 31-32 of those first fights in his career.


I didn't say he would ever be anything like B-Hop. B-Hop is notable for his career onward.

All I'm saying is, as the topic states, Golovkin arguably had a middleweight career on par with Hopkins at 160 (whether slightly better or slightly worse).

I think Oscar would beat Jacobs.

But dont take my word for it! Oscar is in the HOFame for a reason. Jacob's is gonna need to buy a ticket like you to get in.

[Chuckguy]

Yeah, when did golovkin meet at a catchweight like Hopkins did vs dlh moron? Remember he wouldn't do a CW for canelo, but wanted ward st 164? You're ****** and fail to see things too.

He wanted the supposed lineal mw champ at the limit but the coward stayed in his fictitious weight class needing two years to adjust to 160
You are a ****en hater and an idiot you are blinded by blackness ans are always sucking off black fighters fawk them and you too you lmfao!

[Shadoww702]

Jacobs and Canelo are better as MWs than anyone Hopkins defeated (or drew with.) Otherwise meh like BHOP's competition.

I'm sure you have Vanes better than anyone on Hopkins resume as well.... *** you probably have House Arrest Wade better than RJJ in his prime.


Bunch of dumb ***s out today???

What is this GGGTarded day???

[BDG]

Jacobs and Canelo are better as MWs than anyone Hopkins defeated (or drew with.) Otherwise meh like BHOP's competition.

I can't agree with you on those points. Jacobs is good for now but not compared to De la Hoya, Trinadad, Willam Joppy, Glen Johnson, etc... Canelo is a cash cow but he hasn't beat anyone good as a MW for that matter.

[BoZz]

This cherry picker is ******ed lol..been sleeping in the same division fighting bum after bum, got a gift decision against Jacobs and couldn't beat canelo...b hop moved up wasn't scared to fight anyone..this bum got his next cherry pick lined up...vanes????? wow