So after the PR stunt, this comes out??

[iamboxing]

The only stunts being pulled are from Hearn. Wilder is deadly serious about fighting AJ and has done everything humanely possible to get the fight made short of licking Hearn's boots.

We're supposed to believe Wilder would purposely embarrass himself by making an offer only to later say, "oops, sorry...I don't have the money!"? It was a genuine offer and Hearn can easily have it verified through the proper channels. Where's his counter-offer? Why doesn't he pick up the phone and speak to the right people instead of making vague statements.

Oh, and the way he always says, "That's not how it works" when he's asked and then does that ****** smirk like he's in the know and everyone else is just naive. In his mind, he's the greatest promoter that's ever lived and Wilder is just some country bumpkin managed by interns.

Anyone with an iota of common sense can see through his and AJ's charade. He thinks he's slick, but he's not. He's just a smug cvnt who inherited his father's contacts and now thinks he runs boxing.

[Ray*]

See. Look at what you've become. You used to be one of the most fair and balanced posters on this site. Now you've turned into a brainwashed fanboy. What happened to you man? It's sad to see.

It's been explained many times and it's really quite simple. If Hearn would like to negotiate the details of a fight, Finkel just wants an assurance from Hearn that he would accept 50 million if the other details were negotiated to Hearn's satisfaction.

What part of that are you struggling to understand? Duco refused to meet with Hearn until they agreed on a framework for the money in the Parker fight. Arum refused to meet with Haymon until they agreed on a framework for the money in the Pacquiao fight. I could list dozens of examples if you really want me to. This is standard operating procedure. The B-side, to make sure they're not wasting their time and getting jerked around, will often want some sort of understanding on the money before sitting down to hammer out the other particulars.

I don't know who is brainwashing you, because i don't even give a toss about the people who are negotiating.

I look at things in details, if anyone is going to make 50million dollars off me, or offer me 50million dollars then i want to sit down with that person.

So if am going to give you 50M, for whatever you have, then i would NOT want to see anything but you in my face.

So forget all that "You use to be a balance poster" rubbish, am speaking from business side of things, experience and am speaking about less money involve here.

So for 50m no way am i waiting for you to agree to anything on email, facetime or whichever way you think people agree to a 50m dollar deal.

[N/A]

I look at things in details, if anyone is going to make 50million dollars off me, or offer me 50million dollars then i want to sit down with that person.

Okay, but you've never been involved in a 50 million dollar deal, so you wouldn't have any idea what's common in those level of negotiations.

So if am going to give you 50M, for whatever you have, then i would NOT want to see anything but you in my face.

But if I'm unwilling to accept the 50M, under any circumstance, why bother sitting down with me?

So forget all that "You use to be a balance poster" rubbish, am speaking from business side of things, experience and am speaking about less money involve here.

Things work differently with less money involved. At the highest levels, the rules are very different.

So for 50m no way am i waiting for you to agree to anything on email, facetime or whichever way you think people agree to a 50m dollar deal.

But this isn't about what YOU would do. This is about what would be common in a similar situation. In boxing, it is very common at the highest level that you don't sit down to discuss smaller deal points until there is a general understanding of the largest deal point (the money).

[Illmatic94]

If Hearn wanted to really call somebody's bluff he would just say "I agree to your offer, now what?" and then see their next move. That's how you call a bluff.

That slimy bastard already knows what the offer is. He was provided with more details than when he offered his pathetic $12.5 million flat with no proof of anything.

Hearn's offer was take it or leave it, with a deadline. No info about date, venue, ref, judges or proof of funds. Now he wants all this info given to him in a contract without agreeing to the offer. What a scumbag.

The offer is Femi gets $50million REGARDLESS how successful the event is, Wilder picks venue and it must take place by year's end. Now did Hearn provide these specific details with his insulting $12.5 million offer?

Instead he's saying how concerned he is about what Wilder is making when that's not his business. What a clown.

[juggernaut666]

Nothing unusual about this. You almost always have a back up plan ready to go in these situations. Wilder 100% wants AJ next, but if AJ won't fight him, Wilder's team has a responsibility to have something else lined up for him just in case.

Wilder is 100% available to fight AJ. Wilder will only fight Breazeale next if AJ won't fight.

Another LIE !



Finkel SPECIFICALLY said in his Email that they wanted the Joshua fight at the END of the year which means they have a fight lined up NOW .

They knew they were fighting Breazeale weeks ago and used Joshuas name to promote THAT fight .


IF the fight doesn't happen it is bc ........


YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY FIGHT IF YOU DONT EVEN WANT A MEETING TO DISCUSS IT .

[yammy25]

See. Look at what you've become. You used to be one of the most fair and balanced posters on this site. Now you've turned into a brainwashed fanboy. What happened to you man? It's sad to see.

It's been explained many times and it's really quite simple. If Hearn would like to negotiate the details of a fight, Finkel just wants an assurance from Hearn that he would accept 50 million if the other details were negotiated to Hearn's satisfaction.

What part of that are you struggling to understand? Duco refused to meet with Hearn until they agreed on a framework for the money in the Parker fight. Arum refused to meet with Haymon until they agreed on a framework for the money in the Pacquiao fight. I could list dozens of examples if you really want me to. This is standard operating procedure. The B-side, to make sure they're not wasting their time and getting jerked around, will often want some sort of understanding on the money before sitting down to hammer out the other particulars.

So why can't Hearn and AJ have some sort of understanding on where the money is coming by having a meeting they asked for to better understand it.. before committing and saying "we accept"

You know damn well if they said it and sat down and then weren't happy with the other particulars such as marketing.. venue control etc and said no we aren't doing that,, that wilder fanboys Including you three on this shill account would cry duck.

[Ray*]

Okay, but you've never been involved in a 50 million dollar deal, so you wouldn't have any idea what's common in those level of negotiations.




But if I'm unwilling to accept the 50M, under any circumstance, why bother sitting down with me?




Things work differently with less money involved. At the highest levels, the rules are very different.

Yeah there is less security if more money when it comes to negotiation. In the real world am sorry it doesn't work like that.

[juggernaut666]

So why can't Hearn and AJ have some sort of understanding on where the money is coming by having a meeting they asked for to better understand it.. before committing and saying "we accept"

You know damn well if they said it and sat down and then weren't happy with the other particulars such as marketing.. venue control etc and said no we aren't doing that,, that wilder fanboys Including you three on this shill account would cry duck.

" Including you three on this shill account " =

[PsychoPat]

We don’t have kool-aid here not healthy, that was a publicity stunt offer that has been called out by educated Americans. No legit offer 50m offer gets accepted without signing things. You guys can continue drinking those kool-aids doe..

No kool aid Ray? What about the sodium fluoride in our drinking water that's worse then kool aid lol

https://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/9-shocking-dangers-of-fluoride/

[rickJen]

And in collusion with WBC.
Some hocus pocus has been going on in the Haymon camp.