Comments Thread For: Dillian Whyte Angry, Says He Feels "Betrayed" By The WBC

[Ray*]

Convo over.

Thank God for that.

[Jimmy gold]

They trying to protect that cherry picking bum wilder from Dylan white

[Ray*]

It was a very fluid situation. So much work and negotiating went into convincing Stiverne to step aside. Getting it approved that he could put his mandatory status on the line against Breazeale. Wilder taking a pay cut so that Stiverne could be paid more for the Breazeale fight than he would have made for the Wilder fight. All of these moving parts finally settled, then Ortiz fails a test and screws the whole thing up. At that point, it was a total mess. Stiverne still wanted to fight Breazeale because it paid more, Breazeale was demanding that he still fight a final eliminator regardless of who the opponent was. Wilder needing Stiverne to step back into the main event.

Depending on when that journalist asked the question could have led to a very different answer. Depending on how important the person was that they asked, that person may not have had the latest information or that information could have changed after they gave their answer.

You also have attorneys that need to be consulted to advise on which decision would be more likely to leave the WBC vulnerable to litigation.

As for the WBC being "known to be corrupt," what do you base that on? All of the other organizations are confirmed to have taken bribes for years. The WBC is the only one that's never had a bribery scandal. Hearn himself has said this isn't a question of corruption, it's a question of the WBC being stuck in a complicated situation and trying to please everyone the best they can.




Wilder fulfilled a mandatory in 2017, so in theory he has a mandatory due by the end of 2018. That mandatory is Breazeale because Breazeale won a final eliminator last year. If Whyte and Ortiz fight in 2018, the winner will be the mandatory for 2019. Not sure what's difficult about that for you to understand. Why would Breazeale be a voluntary when he already won a final eliminator last year to become this year's mandatory?

I understand Whyte's frustration. He knows AJ and Wilder could fight two or three times, delaying the Breazeale fight until god knows when, and possibly pushing the Whyte/Ortiz winner's shot until 2020. I get why he's upset. His promoter has been telling him all year he'd be declared the mandatory. But check the threads here, every time Hearn said that, I kept pointing out that Whyte would likely need to fight a final eliminator and Hearn was misleading the fans, and apparently, misleading Whyte as well.

Am taking in what you are saying, and I applaud you for going back to explain it from way back. I still feel some transparency and better communication is needed here. Even though I don’t agree with some of the things you have pointed out, am glad you stay on point in trying to explain how we got to this point in time. Hopefully Whyte would find out how he got to the point of him being looked over even after fighting like 4 fights sanctioned by the WBC whilst holding the number 1 ranking.

[Raggamuffin]

So far you are the only crying, doesn’t matter how many lol, lmao you place on your post to me, it doesn’t make any different to what we are discussing here. Stay on topic or move on, you feel the need to reply to my discuss to WBC/WBA/IBF because my posts burn you to the core. If I see corruption I would point it out as am about the boxers.

Guys, you know that friend who thinks that he knows what he's talking about all of the time and he doesn't, lmao. You have to tell him to stfu every now and then lol. That's Ray. He expects us to care what the skid mark Benson who has worked with Hearn in the past has to say about the WBC, lmao. That's his argument.

[N/A]

Am taking in what you are saying, and I applaud you for going back to explain it from way back. I still feel some transparency and better communication is needed here. Even though I don’t agree with some of the things you have pointed out, am glad you stay on point in trying to explain how we got to this point in time. Hopefully Whyte would find out how he got to the point of him being looked over even after fighting like 4 fights sanctioned by the WBC whilst holding the number 1 ranking.

Yes yes, you are 100% right. There should have been better communication. And I'm not saying Sulaiman didn't lie to Hearn. That's very possible. Sulaiman might have told Hearn what he wanted to Hear, told Haymon what he wanted to hear, and then figured out later how to handle it. All I'm saying is that because Hearn is so good at spinning things in public, it's not beneath him to misrepresent the situation in IFL videos. It's also not beneath Moro to talk out of two sides of his mouth. I have no way of knowing what the truth is here. I know what Moro told me and I know what the WBC said publicly. Maybe they told Hearn something different, maybe they didn't. Either way, I totally understand why Whyte is frustrated.

However, those WBC fights Whyte had are the reason he got to #1. Those WBC fighters Whyte had are the reason he's now in a position to fight in a final eliminator. A lot of political chess takes place behind the scenes. Haymon and Hearn are two of the most powerful people that work with the WBC. I'm sure it wasn't easy for the WBC to navigate a situation between their two most important customers. Haymon was pushing for one thing, Hearn was pushing for another, and Haymon won out.

But part of what weakens Hearn's argument is that he just promoted a fight where Povetkin was allowed to put his mandatory status on the line against a lesser opponent. Normally if the mandatory loses to #15, #15 doesn't suddenly become the mandatory. So Hearn would have had an argument for why Stiverne shouldn't have been allowed to potentially sell his mandatory status to Breazeale. But since Hearn just did the same thing with Povetkin and Price, he can't really object to what went down last year.

[Ray*]

That's his argument.

Mate, I thought we are done here? Or you just seeking attention here?

[Smash]

wilders team got what they wanted, simple as that, they are making the fights up as they go along and the wbc is with them on it, collusion

[Jimmy gold]

Smh wilder ducking Dylan white

[ShoulderRoll]

Yes yes, you are 100% right. There should have been better communication. And I'm not saying Sulaiman didn't lie to Hearn. That's very possible. Sulaiman might have told Hearn what he wanted to Hear, told Haymon what he wanted to hear, and then figured out later how to handle it. All I'm saying is that because Hearn is so good at spinning things in public, it's not beneath him to misrepresent the situation in IFL videos. It's also not beneath Moro to talk out of two sides of his mouth. I have no way of knowing what the truth is here. I know what Moro told me and I know what the WBC said publicly. Maybe they told Hearn something different, maybe they didn't. Either way, I totally understand why Whyte is frustrated.

However, those WBC fights Whyte had are the reason he got to #1. Those WBC fighters Whyte had are the reason he's now in a position to fight in a final eliminator. A lot of political chess takes place behind the scenes. Haymon and Hearn are two of the most powerful people that work with the WBC. I'm sure it wasn't easy for the WBC to navigate a situation between their two most important customers. Haymon was pushing for one thing, Hearn was pushing for another, and Haymon won out.

But part of what weakens Hearn's argument is that he just promoted a fight where Povetkin was allowed to put his mandatory status on the line against a lesser opponent. Normally if the mandatory loses to #15, #15 doesn't suddenly become the mandatory. So Hearn would have had an argument for why Stiverne shouldn't have been allowed to potentially sell his mandatory status to Breazeale. But since Hearn just did the same thing with Povetkin and Price, he can't really object to what went down last year.

That's the good thing about the IBF, the rules are set in stone and everybody knows where they stand at all times.

No need to navigate anything.

Boxing would be better off if this was the standard for everybody.

[tokon]

That's the good thing about the IBF, the rules are set in stone and everybody knows where they stand at all times.

No need to navigate anything.

Boxing would be better off if this was the standard for everybody.

So GGG's next fight after vanes is the Ukrainian or be stripped ?
Alvarez doesn't hold a title so there's no unification to allow a request not to make the mandatory next, let's see what golovkin does. . .