Did Hearn send a contract with details with his 12.5 offer?

[Eff Pandas]

Yeah but he didn’t come up with $50million. He didn’t come up with anything, he just says “accept”.

Accept what exactly? An email?

In fairness agreements take less time to figure out than contract details. Contract details are finer points. To me it sounds like Wilder & Joshua have agreed in principle to a fight which is the first step.

Also no idea why you Joshua fanboys are so into this weirdo sh^t arguing about even weirder sh^t. There is career high paydays for both guys waiting. This is 1 vs 2. These are two undefeated KO artists. This is the among the top 2 or 3 fights every hardcore fan wants to see right now. Joshua wants the fight. Wilder wants the fight. Lets see the f#cking fight. I got no horse in this race other than getting a chance to see the race, whats the problem with that?!?!?!

[sunny31]

did he??????????

Team Wilder rejected the offer. Or at the least they were not interested as there was no reply. Hearn replied to the offer via email and said they were very interested.

[LacedUp]

In fairness agreements take less time to figure out than contract details. Contract details are finer points. To me it sounds like Wilder & Joshua have agreed in principle to a fight which is the first step.

Also no idea why you Joshua fanboys are so into this weirdo sh^t arguing about even weirder sh^t. There is career high paydays for both guys waiting. This is 1 vs 2. These are two undefeated KO artists. This is the among the top 2 or 3 fights every hardcore fan wants to see right now. Joshua wants the fight. Wilder wants the fight. Lets see the f#cking fight. I got no horse in this race other than getting a chance to see the race, whats the problem with that?!?!?!

You can't convince me that this is a legit way of starting a conversation over the biggest fight in boxing. Seriously, come on. It's a smoke screen.

Don't you find it weird that the WBC has put Breazele mandatory and he's also come out and said he's been told it's Wilder in august? And at the same time Wilder's manager says a meeting would be non-productive?

Come on. I do believe Wilder wants the fight - Of course I do. AJ wants it too.

but whether or not Wilder are committed to having it next, or want to squeeze in a little fight with Breazele first, I'm not sure.

But I believe AJ is committed to having the fight next.

[Eff Pandas]

You can't convince me that this is a legit way of starting a conversation over the biggest fight in boxing. Seriously, come on. It's a smoke screen.

Fights get made all sorts of ways in 2018. Boxing is the wild wild west of sports.

Don't you find it weird that the WBC has put Breazele mandatory and he's also come out and said he's been told it's Wilder in august? And at the same time Wilder's manager says a meeting would be non-productive?

I'm sure he is Wilder's opponent in August just like Povetkin will be Joshua's opponent in Aug/Sept/Oct if they don't fight each other. Having a plan B in order isn't uncommon for the big name guys. Canelo supposedly had a whole deal worked out to fight Spike in Sept after the GGG fight in May.

Come on. I do believe Wilder wants the fight - Of course I do. AJ wants it too.

Thats all you need right there. If both say they want it & force their teams to make it we shall see it. Thats all I really care about here. I understand teams have all sorts of strategy's & angles to work with making a fight & getting their way that its tough to grasp the logic of in the moment a lot of times so I don't try to get THAT involved with all that.

but whether or not Wilder are committed to having it next, or want to squeeze in a little fight with Breazele first, I'm not sure.

But I believe AJ is committed to having the fight next.

I don't see why Wilder would wanna fight Breazeale for $2M or w/e next vs fight Joshua for $10M+ or w/e next.

I don't think Wilder cares about losing. I think he's probably more delusional about being unbeatable than Joshua is in fact lol. Joshua is more of a realist & knows a L is a virtual lock for him sooner or later. But regardless of all that I don't get how anyone would think these two wouldn't want the other next based on the things they've said.

Hearn on the other hand.....

[LacedUp]

Fights get made all sorts of ways in 2018. Boxing is the wild wild west of sports.

I'm sure he is Wilder's opponent in August just like Povetkin will be Joshua's opponent in Aug/Sept/Oct if they don't fight each other. Having a plan B in order isn't uncommon for the big name guys. Canelo supposedly had a whole deal worked out to fight Spike in Sept after the GGG fight in May.

Thats all you need right there. If both say they want it & force their teams to make it we shall see it. Thats all I really care about here. I understand teams have all sorts of strategy's & angles to work with making a fight & getting their way that its tough to grasp the logic of in the moment a lot of times so I don't try to get THAT involved with all that.

I don't see why Wilder would wanna fight Breazeale for $2M or w/e next vs fight Joshua for $10M+ or w/e next.

I don't think Wilder cares about losing. I think he's probably more delusional about being unbeatable than Joshua is in fact lol. Joshua is more of a realist & knows a L is a virtual lock for him sooner or later. But regardless of all that I don't get how anyone would think these two wouldn't want the other next based on the things they've said.

Hearn on the other hand.....

Mate, the biggest fight in boxing is not made by agreeing to an e-mail. Seriously, be real. This isn't some journeymen fight on a small hall show, this is a multi-million dollar event that needs serious planning and coordination.

If Wilder doesn't want to meet with Hearn and don't want to discuss terms, then yes it will be. But then that will be Wilder's own fault. If he has 50million guaranteed then show some proof and get it into an escrow. That's the way a proper fight is made.

Proof of funds. In any business agreement, this is custom.

I totally agree about Wilder. The guy is 220, KOs everyone etc. of course he's confident in himself. He knows he'll win.

AJ is the same. One is a little more outspoken, but both of those guys have 1billion% confidence in themselves. You don't make it to that level without it.

I don't know about the Breazele thing, but it's fishy as hell.

[Eff Pandas]

Mate, the biggest fight in boxing is not made by agreeing to an e-mail.

Things get agreed to in principle over a cobb salad at an outlet mall. It ain't that serious bro. You don't need a special pen & someone to cut the ribbon to agree in principle.

And thats all you are gonna agree to in 24hrs cuz boxing contracts are complicated as f#ck with all sorts of bells & whistles added to them these days it seems.

If Wilder doesn't want to meet with Hearn and don't want to discuss terms, then yes it will be. But then that will be Wilder's own fault. If he has 50million guaranteed then show some proof and get it into an escrow. That's the way a proper fight is made.

I mean do you think Wilder is meeting Hearn? My assumption is this is a Haymon & Finkel thing. Wilder will be in the lobby or at home waiting on the call the deal is done or isn't done probably when they get to the finer points.

Proof of funds. In any business agreement, this is custom.

This is just petty & simple you think Haymon can't pull $50M out of his ass if need be. The guy has the three biggest fights in boxing history on his resume & he made most of his money 2 decades before he even got into boxing.

If some offer from Dubai comes to you yea you gotta make sure the money is there, but if Haymon is saying you are gonna get $50M/GTD you are getting $50M/GTD.

I don't know about the Breazele thing, but it's fishy as hell.

These days I think its standard. And with Hearn being the guy who wields his power the most & being the party involved who least wants to make the fight makes a plan B necessary.

And I'm sure that is merely an agreement in principle as well with it being void if Joshua & Wilder coming to an agreement. Nothing wrong with covering your bases.

And I bet the move was made as a anti-Whyte move more than a pro-non-AJ fight or pro-Breazeale fight. I think Wilder is offended & frustrated with the Whyte sh^t & thus made the best move to lock him out of a title shot. Wilder 1, Hearn 0 with that Whyte bs now. And Whyte knows it the most cuz he knows he was a pawn in this game all along & now has a tougher road to a title shot cuz of Hearn's play. Thats a whole other thing doe & just my theory obviously, but yea thats about f#cking Hearn & Whyte with this Whyte bs not about any sort of build up for a Breazeale fight.

[Raggamuffin]

Losing the wilder/povetkin fight to ryabinski after the Russian only bid $7million for it was quite an accomplishment!

And what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Lmao.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Has wilder been fighting the wrong fights? I can't believe a champ can have 40 wrong fights
The truth is he can only break in through the help of AJ.
The guy is anonymous.

Not over here. Lara puts up bigger numbers than Joshua.

[kafkod]

This is just petty & simple you think Haymon can't pull $50M out of his ass if need be. The guy has the three biggest fights in boxing history on his resume & he made most of his money 2 decades before he even got into boxing.

If some offer from Dubai comes to you yea you gotta make sure the money is there, but if Haymon is saying you are gonna get $50M/GTD you are getting $50M/GTD.

Al Haymon has did more fights and paid more purses than Eddie Hearn can ever dream of. The fact that Hearn is even asking Haymon if the money is legit is an insult. And it just proves how small time Eddie Hearn really is. Big bytch in a small pond and he’s out of his league.

Haymon could only raise $5million for the Wilder/Povetkin purse bid. That's why lost the fight to Povetkin's promoter.

[Eff Pandas]

Haymon could only raise $5million for the Wilder/Povetkin purse bid. That's why lost the fight to Povetkin's promoter.

News Flash...Povetkin isn't Joshua. That fight wasn't for all the belts.

Different fight, different fighters, different belts, different appeal. This isn't brain science bruh.