Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Final Eliminator Ordered

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  • Jkp
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    #191
    Originally posted by landotter
    Curious as to how you define "legit" in this day and age of HW. Seems everyone has there own. I do think the Chisora win puts Whyte into "legit" territory, although behind Pulev, Ortiz, and Povetkin. But he has shown enough skill and blowing out bad fighters to get him on that basic tier 2 level.

    If not Whyte and those three, who is legit?
    Whyte proved he is exactly the same level as Chisora. Chisora lost to "Agit Kabayel" recently, which suggests this "Agit Kabayel" should be ranked way ahead of Whyte as he is clearly a better fighter if he can beat Chisora.

    Whyte hasn't blown out bad fighters, he struggled terribly with an old Chisora, and couldnt even hit Helenius who lay stationary on the ropes for 8 rounds because he had 5 days prep.

    His best win was against Browne, who is one of the few boxers on earth, crap enough to make Whyte look good.

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #192
      Originally posted by Cantona
      The biggest win of his life against a man who needed PED's to fight the white rhino Dave Allen.
      To be fair, rumor holds that Saskia Jade also needed PEDs to last the distance with Allen.

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        #193
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Ehm Whyte has better wins and better competition on his resume than Ortiz.

        Please stop talking BS. You’re boring.

        Remember Chisora knocked out Ortiz’s second best win in 6 rounds ffs. And Whyte beat Ortiz’s third best.

        Beat a former world champion and another ranked #1.

        All better anything Ortiz has done.
        Chisora also just lost to Agit someone.

        Browne was never #1 of anything, hes a complete myth. He was never good when he was young, fit and on the juice, and he definitely isnt good when hes old, fat and off the juice.

        Clutching at straws if your claiming a win against a Browne as a greatest achievement, thats a joke.

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          #194
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Yes that does ring a bell, as a matter of fact.

          I remember that Stiverne - who did nothing to earn an eliminator with Povetkin in the first place - failed a PED test before the fight but was given a pass by the WBC because "it was the first time he had failed a drug test and there was no evidence he was deliberately cheating"

          Does that ring a bell?

          Then after Povetkin also failed a drug test the WBC gave Stiverne the mandatory slot without him having to fight an eliminator against anybody for it. Corrupt bastards, the lot of them.
          The question was how did Stiverne become mando. He was supposed to fight for it...but....the rest is history.

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            #195
            Nice fight, this.

            Ortiz should take it - depends what kind of shape he's in, though, and whether he's still motivated after the Wilder loss.

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              #196
              Originally posted by P4Pdunny
              Wilder's fans are annoying/delusional/warped they use their own opinions and try to make them true, but this right here is truth.
              There are some assumptions in that post.

              1. Hearn had to push for a in person meeting. Did Hearn say that?
              2. When Wilder asked that he be promised the Joshua fight if he fought Whyte he had not yet asked for a flip of the splits in a rematch.

              The post also left out the fact that Hearn said he believed he could squeeze in one more fight before Wilder. It also left out the fact that Joshua said that he would possibly fight someone else next.

              I wish UK fans would work harder at sending a message that the only fight they wanna see is Joshua Wilder than they are currently working to prove Wilder is ducking.

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                #197
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                I think it's just too quick to put Ortiz in the mix again after a title loss.
                He should at least one or two fights before fighting a mandatory eliminator.
                It's wbc using Ortiz to protect wilder?
                I don't know but this is exactly what Wilder said "fight Ortiz first if you want title shot". We'll see if Wilder is a man of his word and fight Whyte after he beats Ortiz. Funny that Wilder fans complain about so called gatekeepers but when Wilder does it it's perfectly fine, double standards?

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  I'm the one who's biased? My, you really are a very deluded soul aren't you.

                  Whyte is a better fighter than Brezeale, plus more money is on the line. So yes, Wilder is ducking. Anyone with a brain would take that offer, but no, you and Wilder are both idiots.

                  So you don't think AJ is ducking Wilder after he called him out? Are you going to show hypocrisy?
                  You want to call a champ a duck for trying to unify? It's not a duck if you're trying to fight the better fighter instead. Whyte is C level.

                  Joshua situation is not quite a duck but is close. Can't say you wanna be undisputed then have your promoter say that instead of taking the Wilder risk you could just fight others for big money.

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                    #199
                    Luis Ortiz has all these Dillian Shyte fans shook.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by 5000boxing
                      How is wilder a fraud.. he fought ortiz.. joshua ran like a gazelle from ortiz.. now hearns and the mudbutt gang is sending whyte to his grave! Lol. Smh eddie, using dillian like a crash dummy! Lmao. When ortiz destroys whyte.. fraud joshua will hide.
                      Ortiz is a guy from the same team as Wilder, how about Alabama fraud fighting somebody young, hungry in his prime like Parker? No, Wilder ******ed fangirls won't let him fight a live opponent.

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