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  • #41
    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    you didnt explain anything but made excuses.

    the world tour is simply there so they can milk whatever off of pac from the people that havent seen him fight live yet. this is the purpose of the world tour.

    why would bob keep manny away from crawford because of the world tour? lol. if a loss is gonna affect pac's drawing power that much, then why is manny fighting lucas next? shouldnt pac be fighting a school level type to insure he doesnt get ko?
    Answered why he keeps him away from Crawford already.

    Not just a loss, a brutal bludgeoning.

    He is fighting worse than a school level type.

    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    ahh so crawford is not a star then? is that why bob is not protecting him? even tho he's been fighting nothing but bums and is getting a title shot against horn? but bob is not protecting crawford right? lol
    I didn't post that Crawford isn't a star. That is you playing semantics games whilst trying to spin my words. You can keep doing it but I will not take it seriously.

    Bob isn't protecting Crawford, he is protecting Manny by steering him toward Loma in a CW fight rather than Crawford who he expects will beat Horn and become WBo WW champ.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      Answered why he keeps him away from Crawford already.

      Not just a loss, a brutal bludgeoning.

      He is fighting worse than a school level type.



      I didn't post that Crawford isn't a star. That is you playing semantics games whilst trying to spin my words. You can keep doing it but I will not take it seriously.

      Bob isn't protecting Crawford, he is protecting Manny by steering him toward Loma in a CW fight rather than Crawford who he expects will beat Horn and become WBo WW champ.

      i just did!! he's protecting crawford just like what he did with manny against floyd.

      crawford is a young up and coming star. a lost or struggle against a fading pac will not look good.

      manny is on his way out, wtf is bob protecting him for? you cant have it both ways. you said bob was protecting pac from floyd all these years because a lost to floyd will ruin pac's career.

      pac is on his way out, hasnt been the same in drawing power, yet you're here saying bob in protecting manny from crawford??? so bob is protecting pac from his future cash cow in crawford??

      we get it dunn, for years, everyone, media included was making fun of floyd saying he's afraid to fight manny. so now you want to get back at everyone by trying to convince us that manny is afraid of crawford.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        he did, then he made an agreement with MP to make it happen. As I understand it, TR is helping with certain aspects of the promotion..
        what agreement??? i thought bob said pac vs lucas wont happen because the money is not there?? what aspect are they helping with?

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        • #44
          Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
          what agreement??? i thought bob said pac vs lucas wont happen because the money is not there?? what aspect are they helping with?
          He is making it up as he goes along lol why entertain a troll like him

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          • #45
            Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
            i just did!! he's protecting crawford just like what he did with manny against floyd.

            crawford is a young up and coming star. a lost or struggle against a fading pac will not look good.

            manny is on his way out, wtf is bob protecting him for? you cant have it both ways. you said bob was protecting pac from floyd all these years because a lost to floyd will ruin pac's career.

            pac is on his way out, hasnt been the same in drawing power, yet you're here saying bob in protecting manny from crawford??? so bob is protecting pac from his future cash cow in crawford??

            we get it dunn, for years, everyone, media included was making fun of floyd saying he's afraid to fight manny. so now you want to get back at everyone by trying to convince us that manny is afraid of crawford.
            Bob is not protecting Crawford from Pacquaio. Think.

            He's grooming Pacquaio for Lomachenko because he sees more star potential and crossover appeal with Lomachenko and can sell that as a more competitive match because Pacquaio is bigger than Loma and Loma could have the "he's fighting for his 4th world title in his 14th or 15th fight" angle. Pacquaio is also likely to just get toyed with and shut out.

            In Crawford it's a less marketable fight and also a harder sell because Crawford is the bigger guy and likely to beat Pacquaio up.

            Bob wants Loma to be a bigger star and the fastest way to become a star these days is to beat a legend while he's still in the public eye.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
              i just did!! he's protecting crawford just like what he did with manny against floyd.

              crawford is a young up and coming star. a lost or struggle against a fading pac will not look good.

              manny is on his way out, wtf is bob protecting him for? you cant have it both ways. you said bob was protecting pac from floyd all these years because a lost to floyd will ruin pac's career.

              pac is on his way out, hasnt been the same in drawing power, yet you're here saying bob in protecting manny from crawford??? so bob is protecting pac from his future cash cow in crawford??

              we get it dunn, for years, everyone, media included was making fun of floyd saying he's afraid to fight manny. so now you want to get back at everyone by trying to convince us that manny is afraid of crawford.
              Just because he was protecting Manny from Floyd doesn't mean he is protecting Crawford from Manny. We get it-you are a manny fan so you are trying to make the best of a bad situation.

              True, but he isn't going to lose and everyone that has a role in the decision making process-Bob, Manny, Manny's team, TR matchmakers-know Crawford will bludgeon Manny.

              I am not trying to convince anyone of anything or get back at anyone. I don't recall saying Manny was scared of Crawford in this thread. I'm looking at the facts and making a conclusion based on them.

              Manny avoided Crawford when Manny was champ and Crawford was the #1 WBO WW contender. Now that Crawford is fighting Horn and is expected to win, manny isn't moving toward fighting Crawford at ww but Loma in a CW, despite still being the #2 ranked WBo ww.

              Sorry Western-Manny's/Bob's actions speak louder than my posts.

              Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
              what agreement??? i thought bob said pac vs lucas wont happen because the money is not there?? what aspect are they helping with?
              Read the article I posted from ESPN. Details are there.

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              • #47
                "Our guy Jeff Horn is too a relevant fighter, he is tooo!!"

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                  Bob is not protecting Crawford from Pacquaio. Think.

                  He's grooming Pacquaio for Lomachenko because he sees more star potential and crossover appeal with Lomachenko and can sell that as a more competitive match because Pacquaio is bigger than Loma and Loma could have the "he's fighting for his 4th world title in his 14th or 15th fight" angle. Pacquaio is also likely to just get toyed with and shut out.

                  In Crawford it's a less marketable fight and also a harder sell because Crawford is the bigger guy and likely to beat Pacquaio up.

                  Bob wants Loma to be a bigger star and the fastest way to become a star these days is to beat a legend while he's still in the public eye.
                  western knows this he is just pretending not to because he loves Manny . admitting Bob is keeping Manny from Crawford means admitting he is either scared or owes a ****load of back taxes.

                  These are not things Manny fans like Western will ever admit because it goes against the image of Manny his fans bought for all those years.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    western knows this he is just pretending not to because he loves Manny and he doesn't want to admit Bob is keeping Manny from Crawford.
                    Crawford wanted Pacquaio after the Jean fight when they were working out Pacquaio's "final fight" and they chose Bradley knowing it's a sure win. Koncz and Roach have been fairly vocal that they don't like the Crawford fight especially after Crawford-Postol.

                    I think Pacquaio would be down but his handlers not so much. It would have been interesting what had happened if Pacquaio got the nod over Horn but the notion from these guys that it's Arum protecting Crawford or Crawford being scared is beyond ******ed.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                      Bob is not protecting Crawford from Pacquaio. Think.

                      He's grooming Pacquaio for Lomachenko because he sees more star potential and crossover appeal with Lomachenko and can sell that as a more competitive match because Pacquaio is bigger than Loma and Loma could have the "he's fighting for his 4th world title in his 14th or 15th fight" angle. Pacquaio is also likely to just get toyed with and shut out.

                      In Crawford it's a less marketable fight and also a harder sell because Crawford is the bigger guy and likely to beat Pacquaio up.

                      Bob wants Loma to be a bigger star and the fastest way to become a star these days is to beat a legend while he's still in the public eye.

                      no way!! bu bu but dunn said bob is protecting pac from crawford because of the "world tour"... so if loma puts a beating on pac, how are they gonna do the "world tour" as dunn suggested.

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