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  • #31
    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    how come arum wasnt present at the press for pac vs lucas? i thought arum said this fight wasnt gonna happen?
    he did, then he made an agreement with MP to make it happen. As I understand it, TR is helping with certain aspects of the promotion.

    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
    so you're saying bob is protecting manny from crawford because of "world tour"?? what for??

    you know damm well people in malaysia is not coming to see manny because he's on a winning streak lol, the world tour purpose is to give people from other country a chance to see manny fight live so they can milk whatever left of pac. its not to showcase pac's talent at this point! lmao! nice try doe!
    I explained why. I'm not going to again.

    When did I post these fights are to showcase Manny's talent? Who wants to see that at this stage? I agree, they are trying to milk whatever is left of Manny.

    Most thought Manny won the Horn fight. Since they did, the world tour still works because in the eyes of most Manny got cheated.

    That will not be the case after Crawford bludgeon's Manny. They can't use the "he got cheated" angle after Crawford puts him in a hospital.

    Manny's value right now is as an opponent on the road (like against Horn) or a headliner in Asia/pan pacific region where he maintains a strong base of support.

    My question-where will the Loma/manny fight be? Russia, Macau or Manilla?

    maybe they think it generates enough that he can pay off his IRS debt and it goes to vegas.
    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-24-2018, 10:14 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      Yes, this was the primary reason the Floyd/manny fight didn't happen sooner. The fight then happened so we are in a different phase of Manny's career.

      In this phase he owes the US gov't tax money. he wants to keep fighting to pay back TR, finance he and his family's campaign and find a way to pay the US gov't. He and his team decided a world tour is the best way to do this.

      So he does whatever he can to avoid Crawford because that fight would need to take place in the US. He most likely gets beaten unconscious, which makes it difficult to sell his "world tour" afterwards. So he avoids Crawford at all costs.

      You already know this but are desperately trying to sell some BS that makes Manny look virtuous and absolves him of any blame.

      I don't know who Bob's future cash cow is. Crawford isn't being protected. He is being forced to fight bums because Bob needs to keep Manny going as long as possible. Bob, his matchmakers and any fan with an ounce of common sense knows at this stage of Manny's career Crawford would bludgeon Manny.

      The only people that pretend otherwise are a select group of NSB posters that are diehard Manny fans.
      ahh so he's being protected. because when its someone else, that's what you'll say.

      so if bob is protecting manny for the "world tour" then why is he fighting lucas next? shouldnt he be fighting another school teacher level type to insure he doesnt get ko? lol!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        he did, then he made an agreement with MP to make it happen. As I understand it, TR is helping with certain aspects of the promotion.



        I explained why. I'm not going to again.

        When did I post these fights are to showcase Manny's talent? Who wants to see that at this stage? I agree, they are trying to milk whatever is left of Manny.

        Most thought Manny won the Horn fight. Since they did, the world tour still works because in the eyes of most Manny got cheated.

        That will not be the case after Crawford bludgeon's Manny. They can't use the "he got cheated" angle after Crawford puts him in a hospital.
        so if its not to showcase manny's talent then why would bob keep pac away from crawford??? a lost to crawford wouldnt matter because pac is not doing the "world tour" to showcase his talent right? lol!!!! i mean pac just lost to horn. wouldnt this affect the "world tour" then? LOL!!

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        • #34
          Why would they care if they're looking past Horn? It's up their fight to go in there and do his thing and win. If Horn wins the fight (highly unlikely) he would be in a much better position to make bigger and better fights. Crawford beating Khan doesn't do much for his career since most people still see him as a joke.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
            ahh so he's being protected. because when its someone else, that's what you'll say.

            so if bob is protecting manny for the "world tour" then why is he fighting lucas next? shouldnt he be fighting another school teacher level type to insure he doesnt get ko? lol!
            Yes, its different for different fighters. Sorry dude but everything isn't the same as you are so desperately trying to pretend.

            because Lucas is, and always has been, an overarted power puncher that looked terrible his last fight. it should be an easy win, albeit in a terrible fight IMO, that moves the world tour forward.

            Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
            so if its not to showcase manny's talent then why would bob keep pac away from crawford??? a lost to crawford wouldnt matter because pac is not doing the "world tour" to showcase his talent right? lol!!!! i mean pac just lost to horn. wouldnt this affect the "world tour" then? LOL!!
            I explained that already. I will not do so again. My previous answer stands.

            I explained what his value is at this point in simple boxing terms. I explained what happened with Horn. If you disagree that is fine. I get it-you are disagreeing just because you can.

            The bottom line is Manny remains the #2 ranked WBO WW contender after Crawford. There is no future plan for him to fight for the WBO WW title but instead a CW match with Loma.

            That says it all.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              Yes, its different for different fighters. Sorry dude but everything isn't the same as you are so desperately trying to pretend.

              because Lucas is, and always has been, an overarted power puncher that looked terrible his last fight. it should be an easy win, albeit in a terrible fight IMO, that moves the world tour forward.



              I explained that already. I will not do so again. My previous answer stands.

              I explained what his value is at this point in simple boxing terms. I explained what happened with Horn. If you disagree that is fine. I get it-you are disagreeing just because you can.

              The bottom line is Manny remains the #2 ranked WBO WW contender after Crawford. There is no future plan for him to fight for the WBO WW title but instead a CW match with Loma.

              That says it all.
              Manny also owes money to the Mafia right ?

              You hood Floyd fans are so funny, make up your own fake news to justify anything when you are guessing

              It’s like saying Floyd is broke or x guy is Hopkins Was broke for fighting so long

              Keep being you Dunn, I mean dumb, the entertainment you Floyd stans provide is priceless with your dumb sht you make up week after week

              Nobody knows manny owes anything, that includes you boy

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              • #37
                Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                so if its not to showcase manny's talent then why would bob keep pac away from crawford??? a lost to crawford wouldnt matter because pac is not doing the "world tour" to showcase his talent right? lol!!!! i mean pac just lost to horn. wouldnt this affect the "world tour" then? LOL!!
                Don’t try to reason with Floyd fans

                A lot of them hate like manny like he fcked their mum and sister

                It was funny watching their denial of peds when Floyd got exposed after the years they spent accusing someone who never got caught with shady stuff like Armstrong style iv treatment

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by lfc19titles View Post
                  Manny also owes money to the Mafia right ?

                  You hood Floyd fans are so funny, make up your own fake news to justify anything when you are guessing

                  It’s like saying Floyd is broke or x guy is Hopkins Was broke for fighting so long

                  Keep being you Dunn, I mean dumb, the entertainment you Floyd stans provide is priceless with your dumb sht you make up week after week

                  Nobody knows manny owes anything, that includes you boy
                  Responding to my posts when you have me on ignore makes you look very soft and weak. Freedom/Tunney did stuff like this and you called him a f@gg0t for it.

                  I haven't read or saw anything suggesting he does owe the mafia.

                  That isn't fake news and has nothing to do with Floyd or Bhop. See article below:

                  http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ys-no-deal-yet

                  Beyond that, Pacquiao has deep tax issues despite earning hundreds of millions of dollars that Arum said would keep him from fighting in the United States.

                  Sorry dude. What I posted is fair and accurate. Sorry it hurt your feelings so much.

                  Well, that's a lie, I'm glad it hurt your feelings and I am upset it didn't hurt them even more.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-24-2018, 10:57 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    Yes, its different for different fighters. Sorry dude but everything isn't the same as you are so desperately trying to pretend.

                    because Lucas is, and always has been, an overarted power puncher that looked terrible his last fight. it should be an easy win, albeit in a terrible fight IMO, that moves the world tour forward.



                    I explained that already. I will not do so again. My previous answer stands.

                    I explained what his value is at this point in simple boxing terms. I explained what happened with Horn. If you disagree that is fine. I get it-you are disagreeing just because you can.

                    The bottom line is Manny remains the #2 ranked WBO WW contender after Crawford. There is no future plan for him to fight for the WBO WW title but instead a CW match with Loma.

                    That says it all.
                    you didnt explain anything but made excuses.

                    the world tour is simply there so they can milk whatever off of pac from the people that havent seen him fight live yet. this is the purpose of the world tour.

                    why would bob keep manny away from crawford because of the world tour? lol. if a loss is gonna affect pac's drawing power that much, then why is manny fighting lucas next? shouldnt pac be fighting a school level type to insure he doesnt get ko?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      Yes, its different for different fighters. Sorry dude but everything isn't the same as you are so desperately trying to pretend.

                      because Lucas is, and always has been, an overarted power puncher that looked terrible his last fight. it should be an easy win, albeit in a terrible fight IMO, that moves the world tour forward.



                      I explained that already. I will not do so again. My previous answer stands.

                      I explained what his value is at this point in simple boxing terms. I explained what happened with Horn. If you disagree that is fine. I get it-you are disagreeing just because you can.

                      The bottom line is Manny remains the #2 ranked WBO WW contender after Crawford. There is no future plan for him to fight for the WBO WW title but instead a CW match with Loma.

                      That says it all.
                      ahh so crawford is not a star then? is that why bob is not protecting him? even tho he's been fighting nothing but bums and is getting a title shot against horn? but bob is not protecting crawford right? lol

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