Andrade is ranked #1 by WBO, #3 by WBA, #5 by WBC & IBF

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  • Mammoth
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    #21
    Originally posted by Street15
    It would be ridiculously weird for them to enforce a mandatory with 3 weeks left (dating back when Canelo canceled). They've neverrrr done that before.
    Or force it after the 5th

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    • tonysoprano
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      #22
      WBO = World Bull**** Organization

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        #23
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        What was the point of HBO signing him if they won't pay money for the Derevyanchenko and they won't make Danny Jacobs fight him? Why aren't he and Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA and why is Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA instead? If HBO is betting on a GGG/Canelo rematch why isn't one of their fighters getting in position to fight BJS instead? Then you'd have all 4 belts on your network.

        WBO

        1 Demetrius Andrade USA
        2 Daniel Jacobs USA
        3 Walter Kautondokwo (WBO Africa) NAM
        4 Maciej Sulecki POL
        5 Gary O'Sullivan (Int-Cont) IRE

        WBA
        1 SAUL ALVAREZ MEX
        2 DANIEL JACOBS USA
        3 DEMETRIUS ANDRADE USA
        4 ROB BRANT USA
        5 MACIEJ SULECKI

        WBC
        1 .- Jermall Charlo (US)
        2 .- Saul Alvarez (Mexico) **
        3 .- Daniel Jacobs (US)
        4 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US)
        5 .- Demetrius Andrade (US)

        IBF
        1 Sergiy Derevyanchenko Ukraine
        2 NOT RATED
        3 Daniel Jacobs United States
        4 Jermall Charlo United States
        5 Demetrius Andrade United States
        If WBO weren't garbage the Jacobs-Sulecki winner would get a mandatory spot against Saunders.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Mammoth
          If WBO weren't garbage the Jacobs-Sulecki winner would get a mandatory spot against Saunders.
          I'm blaming Hearn. He doesn't want to deal with Warren

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            #25
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            I'm blaming Hearn. He doesn't want to deal with Warren
            Sounds like fairly reasonable speculation

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              They could do it now?
              What I'm saying is: why?

              Why not do it at the 3 week mark? Why wait until there's 2 weeks? They gonna wait until May 4th to strip him?

              What would be the reason?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Mammoth
                Or force it after the 5th
                They aren't gonna force it after the 5th if they already said they are willing to sanction to the Canelo rematch. And the unification with Saunders looms as well. Both would trump the Sergiy match.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  I'm blaming Hearn. He doesn't want to deal with Warren
                  Why do they hate each other so much???

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                    #29
                    Didn’t Andrade run away from showtime when it was time to fight Charlo lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                      What was the point of HBO signing him if they won't pay money for the Derevyanchenko and they won't make Danny Jacobs fight him? Why aren't he and Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA and why is Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA instead? If HBO is betting on a GGG/Canelo rematch why isn't one of their fighters getting in position to fight BJS instead? Then you'd have all 4 belts on your network.

                      WBO

                      1 Demetrius Andrade USA
                      2 Daniel Jacobs USA
                      3 Walter Kautondokwo (WBO Africa) NAM
                      4 Maciej Sulecki POL
                      5 Gary O'Sullivan (Int-Cont) IRE

                      WBA
                      1 SAUL ALVAREZ MEX
                      2 DANIEL JACOBS USA
                      3 DEMETRIUS ANDRADE USA
                      4 ROB BRANT USA
                      5 MACIEJ SULECKI

                      WBC
                      1 .- Jermall Charlo (US)
                      2 .- Saul Alvarez (Mexico) **
                      3 .- Daniel Jacobs (US)
                      4 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US)
                      5 .- Demetrius Andrade (US)

                      IBF
                      1 Sergiy Derevyanchenko Ukraine
                      2 NOT RATED
                      3 Daniel Jacobs United States
                      4 Jermall Charlo United States
                      5 Demetrius Andrade United States
                      Canelo needs fights, full stop.

                      The chances that Golovkin becomes a PPV attraction are basically being given up on by HBO (going from having the big rollout ready for the Alvarez rematch to barely being willing to invest any money when that fight doesn't happen makes that rather clear).

                      Saul Alvarez wins the rematch, and moves on from Golovkin. And then the Canelo show takes off.

                      With September done, the path to the May fight begins; pressure doesn't mean much to Alvarez, so if one of the organizations pushes for their mandatory to be settled on a timeline that Alvarez is not on, he'll politely tell them to go **** themselves and give them there belt back.

                      By the time that Alvarez fights, after the assumed September fight, Demetrius Andrade would've like already fought for the WBO belt and beaten Billy Joe Saunders.

                      With Alvarez looking for his next fight, he'd have Daniel Jacobs (WBA mandatory, signed to HBO), Billy Joe Saunders (WBO champion), or Demetrius Andrade (WBO mandatory and likely champion, signed to HBO) as the foremost options to fight on HBO PPV.

                      Gotta think longterm.

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