Andrade is ranked #1 by WBO, #3 by WBA, #5 by WBC & IBF

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  • Motorcity Cobra
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    Andrade is ranked #1 by WBO, #3 by WBA, #5 by WBC & IBF

    What was the point of HBO signing him if they won't pay money for the Derevyanchenko and they won't make Danny Jacobs fight him? Why aren't he and Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA and why is Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA instead? If HBO is betting on a GGG/Canelo rematch why isn't one of their fighters getting in position to fight BJS instead? Then you'd have all 4 belts on your network.

    WBO

    1 Demetrius Andrade USA
    2 Daniel Jacobs USA
    3 Walter Kautondokwo (WBO Africa) NAM
    4 Maciej Sulecki POL
    5 Gary O'Sullivan (Int-Cont) IRE

    WBA
    1 SAUL ALVAREZ MEX
    2 DANIEL JACOBS USA
    3 DEMETRIUS ANDRADE USA
    4 ROB BRANT USA
    5 MACIEJ SULECKI

    WBC
    1 .- Jermall Charlo (US)
    2 .- Saul Alvarez (Mexico) **
    3 .- Daniel Jacobs (US)
    4 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US)
    5 .- Demetrius Andrade (US)

    IBF
    1 Sergiy Derevyanchenko Ukraine
    2 NOT RATED
    3 Daniel Jacobs United States
    4 Jermall Charlo United States
    5 Demetrius Andrade United States
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    #2
    Who knows? Doesn't seem like any of the sanctioning bodies want these guys to fight each other.

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    • Mammoth
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      #3
      HBO dumped him after looking like ass in the Fox fight. Jacobs-Andrade would be cool though....

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      • Street15
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        Therein lies the flaw in how sanctioning bodies work. You can simply "wait it out" while fighting low level opposition. They know they are mandatory so they won't risk losing the Canelo/GGG fight.

        If the September fight with Canelo doesn't happen, there is a 100% chance a unification with Saunders will come about. The WBO will undoubtedly allow that. So anyone sitting in the mandatory position in the WBO will have to wait no matter what anyway.

        And in the scenario that the Canelo fight in September happens, and Canelo is the winner - there is virtually no chance he holds on to the belts. Charlo & Jacobs are murderers row for him. Tall, athletic, big, strong, smart, agile, long boxer punchers will absolutely do a number on the shorter, slower Canelo.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Street15
          Therein lies the flaw in how sanctioning bodies work. You can simply "wait it out" while fighting low level opposition. They know they are mandatory so they won't risk losing the Canelo/GGG fight.

          If the September fight with Canelo doesn't happen, there is a 100% chance a unification with Saunders will come about. The WBO will undoubtedly allow that. So anyone sitting in the mandatory position in the WBO will have to wait no matter what anyway.

          And in the scenario that the Canelo fight in September happens, and Canelo is the winner - there is virtually no chance he holds on to the belts. Charlo & Jacobs are murderers row for him. Tall, athletic, big, strong, smart, agile, long boxer punchers will absolutely do a number on the shorter, slower Canelo.
          Unification don't mean as much without the IBF

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mammoth
            Unification don't mean as much without the IBF
            Wait. What? What do you mean by that?

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            • Randall Cunning
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              Think I read he was being a pain in the ass in negotiations with Deravyanchenko, theyd agreed on $400k each, then he wanted $200k more, HBO weren't willing to pay. Whilst that what was going on Jacobs and Sulecki got made as a final eliminator.

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              • Randall Cunning
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                #8
                Originally posted by Mammoth
                Unification don't mean as much without the IBF
                LOL, that would have happened by now if they meant it, they want as much money from Canelo/GGG 2 as the rest of them, full of ****

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                • Motorcity Cobra
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mammoth
                  HBO dumped him after looking like ass in the Fox fight. Jacobs-Andrade would be cool though....
                  You serious? I didn't know they let him go

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                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    What was the point of HBO signing him if they won't pay money for the Derevyanchenko and they won't make Danny Jacobs fight him? Why aren't he and Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA and why is Jacobs fighting an eliminator for the WBA instead? If HBO is betting on a GGG/Canelo rematch why isn't one of their fighters getting in position to fight BJS instead? Then you'd have all 4 belts on your network.

                    WBO

                    1 Demetrius Andrade USA
                    2 Daniel Jacobs USA
                    3 Walter Kautondokwo (WBO Africa) NAM
                    4 Maciej Sulecki POL
                    5 Gary O'Sullivan (Int-Cont) IRE

                    WBA
                    1 SAUL ALVAREZ MEX
                    2 DANIEL JACOBS USA
                    3 DEMETRIUS ANDRADE USA
                    4 ROB BRANT USA
                    5 MACIEJ SULECKI

                    WBC
                    1 .- Jermall Charlo (US)
                    2 .- Saul Alvarez (Mexico) **
                    3 .- Daniel Jacobs (US)
                    4 .- Hugo Centeno, Jr. (US)
                    5 .- Demetrius Andrade (US)

                    IBF
                    1 Sergiy Derevyanchenko Ukraine
                    2 NOT RATED
                    3 Daniel Jacobs United States
                    4 Jermall Charlo United States
                    5 Demetrius Andrade United States
                    The boxing structure is crazy. Various sanctioning bodies won't properly rate fighters from different organizations, some promotors won't talk to each other, manditories get ranked for no apparent reasons and HBO and other broadcasters are restrictive as to who they have fighting. Too many sanctioning bodies with multiple champions in each division. Lax drug enforcement that depends primarily on the drawing power of fighters. Can anyone say Cluster ***..

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