The 160 landscape is a mess.

[BillyBoxing]

Are they going to pack a venue with Vanes on short notice?

We'll see, Loeffler said so but that's what he's expected to say.

[BillyBoxing]

The truth must hurt.

Yeah, Gerv hasn't fought a C+ fighter yet, but already getting into some idiotic hood rat beef with Charlo, already a hall of famer doe...I'm a fan man.


I hope Santa Ellerbe put him another belt bought by uncle Floyd under the Chirstmas three so he can chill down.

[mvooom]

I agree with you except on GGG not having reason to do the same, and that reason is named Canelo, and that Canelo guy messed up things.

Just admit it, you like GGG alot. You are a fan of his. There is no shame in it, we all have boxers we prefer.

Canelo is his reason in terms of him chasing money but Canelo is not the reason for him not fighting ANY of his mandatories or showing interest in fighting Saunders in September.

There is no way to sugarcoat this in favour of GGG, it is what it is. He is holding the belts hostage while needing that Canelo payday, not much wrong with that if him and his fans could admit it.

[BillyBoxing]

Just admit it, you like GGG alot. You are a fan of his. There is no shame in it, we all have boxers we prefer.

Canelo is his reason in terms of him chasing money but Canelo is not the reason for him not fighting ANY of his mandatories or showing interest in fighting Saunders in September.

There is no way to sugarcoat this in favour of GGG, it is what it is. He is holding the belts hostage while needing that Canelo payday, not much wrong with that if him and his fans could admit it.

I'm a GGG guy yes but I'm not blaming him for that cinco de mayo debacle.

Common sense makes me think that way, not being a supporter.

[daggum]

Just admit it, you like GGG alot. You are a fan of his. There is no shame in it, we all have boxers we prefer.

Canelo is his reason in terms of him chasing money but Canelo is not the reason for him not fighting ANY of his mandatories or showing interest in fighting Saunders in September.

There is no way to sugarcoat this in favour of GGG, it is what it is. He is holding the belts hostage while needing that Canelo payday, not much wrong with that if him and his fans could admit it.

the reason he is not fighting his mandatories is because they were not mandated.

[daggum]

charlo: waiting for his wbc shot and fighting nobody relevant

derev: wating for his ibf shot and fighting nobody relevant

jacobs: waiting for his wba shot and fighting nobody relevant

saunders: has no one relevant chasing his wbo title and doenst seem in a hurry to fight anyone unless its ggg/canelo

if only these guys would continue trying to fight the best available while waiting for their shot. i wish we had a modern example of someone doing that...oh wait thats what ggg did when he fought top guys like lemiux and jacobs and saunders turned him down. different standards for different folks. just wait for your shot and dont take any risks and the fans are happy about this? low standards. love um

[Randall Cunning]

Some of these mandatory guys wanna be fighting each other jump the queue, Charlo could be waiting a damn long time for his shot. Golovkin kept on winning it could go

1. Martirosyan
2. Canelo
3. Saunders
4. Derevyanchenko
5. Jacobs
6. Charlo

Charlo is a long way off, Golovkin only just done his WBC mandatory

[RomanReigns]

They need to have a Super 6 or Super 8 Tournament.

[ShoulderRoll]

charlo: waiting for his wbc shot and fighting nobody relevant

derev: wating for his ibf shot and fighting nobody relevant

jacobs: waiting for his wba shot and fighting nobody relevant

saunders: has no one relevant chasing his wbo title and doenst seem in a hurry to fight anyone unless its ggg/canelo

if only these guys would continue trying to fight the best available while waiting for their shot. i wish we had a modern example of someone doing that...oh wait thats what ggg did when he fought top guys like lemiux and jacobs and saunders turned him down. different standards for different folks. just wait for your shot and dont take any risks and the fans are happy about this? low standards. love um

What was Vanes doing that made him so relevant?

[BoxingIsGreat]

Yeah, Gerv hasn't fought a C+ fighter yet, but already getting into some idiotic hood rat beef with Charlo, already a hall of famer doe...I'm a fan man.

Why do you care about his personal life or his beef with anybody? Even I, as a huge fan of his, could care less about that stuff. Stick to boxing.

Facts are: Davis's championship achievements are on par with Golovkin.

Real belts won in the ring: two each. Same belts (IBF/WBA) and similar calibre opponents. Geale might even be worse than Pedraza and Cuellar.

Davis is 23, Golovkin is 36, with huge gap in experience. Davis is light years more skilled than Golovkin and more fun to watch as well. None of that stiff, robotic crap.

There you go.