The 160 landscape is a mess.

[SAINTSTEVE]

Derevyanchenko should be facing Andrade, and Charlo vs Jacobs. Saunders vs Murray is pointless and GGG Vanes is a disgrace. I don't care if it's Canelo's fault. It's like theyre all trying to avoid making progress.

[ShoulderRoll]

It wouldn’t be a mess if Clenelo hadn’t cheated. Fck him.
See. That’s what’s wrong with your post. You blame GGG, but Clenelo is the crook. Don’t forget that.

You can't blame Canelo for GGG choosing Vanes.

There were better opponents who were ready and willing to fight Golovkin on short notice.

[Street15]

I think that sht wouldn't happen with only one belt/organization.

I just watched the WBO rankings for fun:
1 Demetrius Andrade USA
2 Daniel Jacobs USA
3 Walter Kautondokwo (WBO Africa) NAM
4 Maciej Sulecki POL
5 Gary O'Sullivan (Int-Cont) IRE
6 Martin Murray UK
7 David Lemieux CAN
8 Sergey Derevyanchenko RUS
9 Steven Butler CAN
10 Tommy Langford UK



I'm not sure if I understand everything about this garbage but GGG is not even ranked while he beat 3 guys in that top ten lol

Boxing is a non sport.

Naw man. If you're a champ, you automatically aren't ranked in any other sanctioning body rankings.

[Motorcity Cobra]

thats a problem and not an argument.

it's too easy to get a mandatory shot against a unified champ and just wait until you get the call.

you have three different routes to become mandatory to golovkin and none requires to take risks.

charlo: beat heiland and centeno. both around top20 guys.

murata: beat hassan. that's it. everyone beats Hassan, even quillin.

derevyanchenko: beat johnson and soliman. one top20 dude one way past prime former champ.

that's what is required nowadays to get a shot against the #1?


solution?

either back to one belt, so it's much more difficult to get a mandatory shot.

or

requiring mandatories of the different sanctioning bodies to fight against each other for the mandatory. one top guy vs another top guy for the right to fight against the top guy.

you're solutions are unrealistic and shows how far you'll go to protect GGG from taking a competitive fight.

You're crazy with that bull****

[Motorcity Cobra]

Exactly, and that's my point, the whole boxing business is fcked up, always waste the best fights with those different promoters, different "word champ belts" and different medias (HBO,PBC).


So GGG has 3 paper belts mandos? Cool, those multi organization doesn't make sense especially when you have a unified champion like GGG.

He will probably fight BJS and Nelo next for the WBO and ring belt.


I know you will try to put this on GGG, your agenda is pretty much obvious.
GGG can't fight 3 mandos on the same night.

The sad thing is most of those 7 elite guys I mentioned will never fight each others.

Im curious why this was never an issue with other unified champs but it's suddenly an issue because it's GGG. This is literally what happens when you're a unified champion. Everybody knew while GGG was going for all the belts. This is how boxing works and they ain't changing it to satisfy one guy

[_original_]

Yes it is but everyone puts the blame on GGG-Canelo and the other contenders but why is everybody ignoring the fact that BJS is holding a belt hostage with no intentions of fighting any top guys? This guy is getting a pass and i wish somebody would go snatch that belt from him and actually talk about unifying the division.

I really don't think he even fights GGG as he's been making it out to be. Lemieux and Willie Monroe are the best wins on his resume, I think that says it all.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The definition of "elite" must've changed a lot. I don't see any elite in this division. Average to good fighters, lead by a so-called "champ" (who fought bums all his career), and now has his tail between his legs, at the sight of the slightest challenge.

Sad division indeed.

[Mammoth]

People cry when this gets discussed. Jacobs is calling out everybody but the GGG haters want Golovkin to face all his mandos because he can't beat them all back to back. GGG fan boys want people to believe Vanes Martirosyan is an ATG 154 pound fighter. Crybaby b1tches on both sides of the fence.....

[ThomasJK]

Yes!!!

You can't blame Canelo for GGG choosing Vanes.

There were better opponents who were ready and willing to fight Golovkin on short notice.

And then #1 they either priced themselves out of the fight (Spike knows he didn't really want to fight GGG and he knows he wasn't going to make life changing money to take a beating) OR #2 they fell back on the "well I'm already signed to fight this guy next".
Example: Charlo could have dropped his fight with Centino and waited two weeks to fight GGG and that would have been a PPV worthy fight. Charlo would have easily made enough money to pay off Centino regardless if he won or lost. Instead, team Charlo was mum about that option,.......see excuse #2 above. The same silence Charlo was last night when no mention of Daniel Jacobs came up,....even after he got stutter-fumbled a few weeks ago.

[Afi23]

thats a problem and not an argument.

it's too easy to get a mandatory shot against a unified champ and just wait until you get the call.

you have three different routes to become mandatory to golovkin and none requires to take risks.

charlo: beat heiland and centeno. both around top20 guys.

murata: beat hassan. that's it. everyone beats Hassan, even quillin.

derevyanchenko: beat johnson and soliman. one top20 dude one way past prime former champ.

that's what is required nowadays to get a shot against the #1?


solution?

either back to one belt, so it's much more difficult to get a mandatory shot.

or

requiring mandatories of the different sanctioning bodies to fight against each other for the mandatory. one top guy vs another top guy for the right to fight against the top guy.

I don't have a problem with your argument but you do realize that GGG won his first WBA Interim Title against Milton Núñez who he KOed in 58 seconds.