Comments Thread For: Hearn: We Won't Let You Play With Our Balls To Overpay Wilder!

[Sid-Knee]

Pretty sure Thurman-Garcia is the only fight at Barclays that outsold Wilder-Ortiz.

Who cares what goes down at Barclay arena when comparing it to Joshua who sells out stadiums?

It just goes to show that boxing in America doesn't matter as much as it used to. Not that Wilder is some star or something because he isn't.

[hitking]

Who cares what goes down at Barclay arena when comparing it to Joshua who sells out stadiums?

It just goes to show that boxing in America doesn't matter as much as it used to. Not that Wilder is some star or something because he isn't.

I’m sure folks ain’t exactly paying top dollar to sit in the nosebleeds in one of AJ’s stadium deals.

[Cheek busting]

Using Hearn’s own projections, AJ would make between $24M-$30M with a 60% purse split. I’ve never been one to really care about how much fighters make, so someone help me out. What are his career high paydays?

25 million for klitscho. That's what the word is neway

[Sid-Knee]

I’m sure folks ain’t exactly paying top dollar to sit in the nosebleeds in one of AJ’s stadium deals.

Are you saying that the money both of them make on tickets is not too far off each other?

Joshua makes a hell of a lot more than Wilder could ever dream of coming close to. Don't pretend otherwise.

And Haymon won't put Wilder on PPV because he knows it would flop hard and he'd lose sway in negotiations with Hearn.

Just face facts. Wilder doesn't make much money for his fights. Joshua does.

[Ray*]

McGregor’s biggest payday prior to Floyd was $3M. He’d be the biggest goat in sports history had he taken a $15M flat fee.

And he had world wide appeal, and he was fighting Floyd Mayweather. And they both are known world wide. This situation is mind blowing because this two guys are not known everywhere. Joshua is big in the UK and probably known in Europe due to Wlad, apart from that where is the money coming from?

[SkillspayBills]

"I feel that we're getting penalized because somebody has done a **** job with Deontay Wilder. You have a guy who is making $2 to 2.5 million a fight and people are like 'he deserves $25 million.' Why? On what basis? He has no profile. He can't sell 10,000 tickets when he fights in a great fight in America. And we have a guy who is making all of this money, and can continue doing so, in risk free fights. Now you're asking our guy to be in the biggest fight of his career for a little more.

"People don't understand the simple economics and the reality of the situation. One guy is earning $2.5 million dollars and the other is earning ten times as much. Joshua has overpaid his opponents. He overpaid Charles Martin, he overpaid Dillian Whyte, he overpaid Breazeale, he overpaid Takam, he overpaid Parker. We ain't doing it again. We're not going to overpay Deontay Wilder for this fight.



Well said. Wilder, his team and his fans are really ****ing dumb.

I need that sig and avy for a 4 months if Deontay beats AJ. Deal?

[The Gambler1981]

Wilder is worth a lot to Joshua so whatever they pay him will be worth it if they can win, as long as Joshua is making more and the lions share from the UK.

70/30 UK split for Joshua with reverse for the US and the only reason Wilder get's 30 from the UK would be because the fight is there and that would hurt the US end and that has to be made up for. can mess with the numbers a bit 5% on either end but you split it up like that so Joshua gets paid for what he brings and Wilder get's paid for what he is bringing to the table with some adjustments for other points in the negotiation.

Could just say Wilder gets US revenue and Joshua gets UK but then have to be real creative with fight time so both can actually prosper, and figure something out splitting up non tv related revenue.

Plus they don't want to give Wilder a flat fee, part of the reason to actually fight Wilder is to bring Joshua into the US market better for a flat fee Wilder has 0 incentive to sell the fight thus hurting this purpose a great deal. Not a very wise strategy long term when Joshua stands to make so many millions over his career from the US market if he can win, Hearn knows all this though.

[Sid-Knee]

name some big caliber fights that one guy got a flat fee offer

Name a big fight where one of the fighters brought nothing to the table and couldn't even sell tickets?

[_Maxi]

If he no made $28M against Parker, a 60/40 split against Wilder sounds about right. Because he’ll make between $24M-$30M according to Hearns projections. And a Wilder fight is bigger than a Parker fight. Not to mention his projections are probably low. Especially if they chose to move the start time to accommodate American PPV.

No! Wilder doesnt deserve 40%.

[hitking]

And he had world wide appeal, and he was fighting Floyd Mayweather. And they both are known world wide. This situation is mind blowing because this two guys are not known everywhere. Joshua is big in the UK and probably known in Europe due to Wlad, apart from that where is the money coming from?

There’s all kinds of ways to put more money in the pot. Why not offer the $12M guarantee, with a chance at a 60/40 split if they reach a certain gross? Move the start time to accommodate American PPV, and let Wilder get the majority of whatever it does. If you trust what Hearn is saying(and for the record I don’t) about the fight only projecting to gross $40M-$50M. And Wilder’s team thinking it’s closer to $100M. There’s all kinds of ways to word contracts that would allow Wilder to make a lot more money if the fight is a blockbuster. And protect Team AJ if it isn’t. But a $12M flat fee with no gross revenue upside, take it or leave it, is a nice way to kill negotiations before they start.