Comments Thread For: Derevyanchenko Trainer: Can't Blame GGG; Sergiy is the Real Deal!

[Motorcity Cobra]

Oh. Gotcha. So this was AFTER dibella said he Martinez won't fight Gennady as his first fight back, but instead fought Cotto (which guaranteed him a bigger purse).

Good stuff. I didn't know that was in his contract. You mind providing a link? I believe you, I just never read up on it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740286

Nobody knew Martinez knee was gone like that until he stepped into the ring with Cotto. So we, the fans, assumed Cotto would've been the easier fight and then GGG next. But once we saw him in the ring with Cotto we knew he would've never survived against GGG.

[Robi13]

Can you get into the HOF by loosing?

Trout has a win vs a first ballot hof... ggg... no

[Street15]

the WBC gave him a 15-day deadline LOL

again..... it is exactly the same, no question

btw, Hypekin had a full camp..... that excuse is ridiculous

let the record show.....

despite mentioning Ward, and other champions at 168..... fighters like Derev and Andrade are "too risky"

your boy has been writing cheques with his mouth that he cannot cash with his fists

This would be legit, BUT....before the Canelo even fought Cotto, it was already in his contract that if he got passed Cotto, he had 15 days after that fight to negotiate the GGG fight.

That contract was enforced. It stated that if he failed to negotiate a fight with Gennady, then that belt will be awarded to Gennady. He was well aware of it before he even fought Cotto and he agreed to it.

Now, it would be the same if IBF told GGG something along the lines of: "Before you fight Canelo, just know that if the fight gets canceled for any reason before a certain (specific date) you will be obligated to face Sergiy, and it will be enforced. If it gets cancelled AFTER the (specific date) we mentioned, then you are free to have a voluntary defense"

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-saul-canelo-alvarez-gennady-golovkin-20151214-story.html

[BoxingIsGreat]

I never said it would benefit Derevyanchenko. I think it's safe to say that neither has trained for the other at this point, and neither are ready. It would be rushed and not the best it could be.

Instead, it's okay to rush an average, fat JMW who hasn't fought for 2 years? What's the logic here?

[Street15]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=740286

Nobody knew Martinez knee was gone like that until he stepped into the ring with Cotto. So we, the fans, assumed Cotto would've been the easier fight and then GGG next. But once we saw him in the ring with Cotto we knew he would've never survived against GGG.

Yeah. His knees were completely gone against Cotto. It was almost laughable (not in the sense of laughing AT sergio, but in the sense of "why would you fight in that condition?") Sergio knew he didn't stand a chance against GGG. Fighting Cotto for a career high paycheck knowing it was probably gonna be his last fight ever was a smart move.

[Shadoww702]

Can you get into the HOF by loosing?

Man they let ppl in who have never boxed a day in their life. Gotti got worse loses than Trout.

They have Sylvester Stallone in the HOF...

[Street15]

Again though. For the people saying GGG is ducking Sergiy -

IF the IBF decides to order & ENFORCE this fight, and GGG doesn't take it, then yes - he is ducking. (Highly unlikely to enforce a mandatory with only 3 weeks left.) If the IBF idly sits by and decides not to enforce it, then just like every other boxer on this planet, (who doesn't have a unification title looming for a desired date) he will be allowed to make a voluntary defense.

You only have to face your mandatory if it is ordered and enforced by said sanctioning body. Enforced is the operative word here.

[Robi13]

Again though. For the people saying GGG is ducking Sergiy -

IF the IBF decides to order & ENFORCE this fight, and GGG doesn't take it, then yes - he is ducking. (Highly unlikely to enforce a mandatory with only 3 weeks left.) If the IBF idly sits by and decides not to enforce it, then just like every other boxer on this planet, (who doesn't have a unification title looming for a desired date) he will be allowed to make a voluntary defense.

You only have to face your mandatory if it is ordered and enforced by said sanctioning body. Enforced is the operative word here.

Ibf will mandate after tomorrow’s hearing, you’re welcome

[Shadoww702]

I take that back??? Maybe GGG does have a good shot of getting in the HOFame??? I mean they got a guy in their with 65 LOSSES!!!

Another guy in their with a record of 11-4-3 (5 KOS)???

[Street15]

Man they let ppl in who have never boxed a day in their life. Gotti got worse loses than Trout.

Yup. I agree.

The fights that GGG could have had on his resume wouldve been nice if .....

Martinez had fought him (he didn't for reasons we all just discussed), if Cotto didn't avoid him by paying him step aside money ($800k), if Sturm hadn't avoided him (paid money to be elevated to WBA SUPER champ), if Peter Quillin hadn't avoided him (not saying he is an all time great, but a victory over him looks good on your resume - it was believed by many that Peter missed weight on purpose to not have to face GGG as mandatory).