Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo, GGG's Options, Hurd, Broner, More

[kafkod]

Well I thought this was another good mailbag.

Canelo has a lot of people in theirs feelings but I just wanted to add some anecdotal information to this discussion about ethnic allegiance.

I remember when the Floyd v. De la Hoya fight was made. I was in high school. I remember being really excited that PBF (who's from Michigan; I'm from Detroit) was getting a shot at the "Golden Boy". For those who don't know, Oscar was huge in hip hop culture, so to many of us young people he was no different than RJJ or Shane (Floyd wasn't that big at that time although the Zab fight was big for his popularity w/ young black kids).

So I went around talking to the old heads in my neighborhood about the fight (mostly at the barbershop). Not one guy over the age of 20 was picking Floyd to beat Oscar. Obviously I was annoyed. So I started making bets that Mayweather would win. I even won a bottle of Moet from this hustling guy that owned the barbershop I went to. If you haven't realized it, all of these conversations were with older black men and none of them thought highly of Floyd (admittedly they were generally casuals). And I lived in a city that was 90% black and wasn't far from where Floyd grew up.

I just add this story so that some here can think about the assumptions they keep making about black boxing fans.

Now I'll admit that things have changed in the post Floyd (50 cent) era. The boxing "channels" have created some crazy "fans" no doubt. But I think a lot of those stronger cultural allegiances is something that's probably more likely in the younger fans.

To be honest I didn't really encounter the racial fanboyism in boxing until I went to college and realized that Manny was like a cultural icon to a lot of people (this one kid had a picture of him in this presentation in class and I remember being confused) and I went on YouTube and started to see the arguments.

Not saying my experience, is everybody's experience but I thought it would be interesting to think about.

Your post is interesting.

I'm not American but I've always followed the news, especially boxing news, and Americans never used to be so tribalistic and obsessed with race as they are nowadays.

Popular music plays a role, imo and also those horrible racist YT boxing channels that have appeared over the last few years.

[BigStomps]

shut up u idiot..racism bla bla bla. a cheater is a cheater get over it

Shut the fucc up you piece of shet!
Punk ass child ******er!

[BigStomps]

That's why I like Dougie the most. He even brought up how the other REAL cheats got a slap on the hand and no one batted an eye but Ass Clowns are wanting to ban Canelo for life and throw the book at him. The problem he has is those other guysews tested clean and THEN dirty after the fight. Canelo has NEVER tested dirty until now. Canelo wasnt even in camp at the time. If he would of been in full camp passed a few tests then tested dirty I would suspend him longer. 6 months and a heavy fine is all he should get...

A side note tomorrow we shall know a hell of a lot more.

Yeah you got a point there...
Hope it's only a 6 month suspension so we can see them fight in September

[Irony123]

The thing is it's actually a bigger risk for Derevyanchenko. GGG has been in beast mode training. Has Derev been in a training camp recently? he would be taking the actual risk here if you ask me but he's willing to do it so I say let him do it. Loeffler's excuse had nothing to do with switching styles all he spoke about was there's not enough money and he wants that fight to marinate into something bigger later on. And I understand that too but Derev is beating the drums for his opportunity immediately, he's not interested in marinating cuz if he was he would've taken step aside money already. And if GGG fights Vanes he likely faces BJS/Canelo/Charlo next. Meaning Derev is assed out. Other fighters wanna get belts and make money too. All signs point to GGG getting stripped.

I completely get your point. To be fair i don't know what is going on behind closed doors, none of us do. Logic dictates that even if Leofflor decides to make an offer to Dibbella for Drev, i dont see it being a good one, I could be wrong but considering GGG is taking the significant lion share of the money from the promotion and Drev is an unknown I can only see Drev accepting a decent % split which won't happen until the fight is forced. I dont see GGG getting stripped either because even if IBF orders the fight, GGG doesn't need to take it if he unifies, and i strongly believe he will try to unify or fight Canelo (if Canelo is chosen then he'll get stripped).

[BigStomps]

Breadman don't care, he's a fair dude IMO.

He is in the sport and don't care about who is the face of boxing, the guy just love the sport and wants to give the best to his fighters. He's not a big mouth.

He always gave credit to GGG and even Nelo.

It's true that Nelo explosiveness was a bit suspect but Nelo has always been like that, quick handed and strong, he just outgrew 154, wich is normal people seem to forget that Nelo is a young dude.

When I was 20 I used to fight in ams at MW, I stopped boxing but now that I'm 32 I swear I would be a cruiserweight, I'm 200 lbs without any fat.

So I disagree with Nelo cheating to be stronger or bigger but MORE THE OPPOSITE.

I just think Nelo took Clembuterol in order to make weight and cut the fat, def not being bigger.

I respect what you gotta say even though we don't agree on all topics.
You seem to know what you're talking about not like most of these PED experts on here.

[Bjl12]

Who did Canelo fight last Cinco De Mayo. Those fights are equally shit.

It's not about Canelo. This is about gennady being a gggirl.

Fighting an unranked jmw coming off a 2yr layoff....how amaze...such wonder

[Mammoth]

It's not about Canelo. This is about gennady being a gggirl.

Fighting an unranked jmw coming off a 2yr layoff....how amaze...such wonder

I'm super pumped!

[BigStomps]

While i understand your love for your fellow ppl... Why would you think i would need to speak out? Lol ,thats silly.. And bread aint risking that and getting sued lol. I mean why would that matter anyway? Dude cheated in the lead up of the biggest fight of his life after getting handled on roids against same guy. I like pacquiao and think he used roids. Mayweather fine with me but i think he used roids... Mosley one of my faves and i know he used roids. All of em do except donaire who actually does and has benn doing vada 365. So not sure why anyone shocked. Its just goofs man

Breadman himself has said that if you speak up and accuse someone of being on PED's then yes, You can get sued. But if you say you SUSPECT then your safe. You just gotta choose your words carefully.
So why don't he drop a list of fighters he suspects of being on PED's??
It's a big difference.
For example.. If I tell people your a F A G G cause you love wearing skinny jeans and you have a pony tail are they gonna believe me? Probably not....
But if I tell them that you ****** my **** are they gonna believe your a F A G G?? Most likely. There's a difference. He just gotta choose his words carefully .

[HarvardBlue]

I notice that also. He never bashes black fighters.

Actually, he never bashes any fighters. He didn't even bash Canelo other than saying he got caught and that the tainted meat excuse is too convenient.

[angkag]

Whats really going to be the icing on the cake is they are going to play the Mexican National Anthem for a Kazach and an Armenian. Team GGG's patronizing of Mexicans has gone sickening overboard.

They're going to play the Mexican anthem for the fight ? Why ? I get May 5 is a big day in Mexico, but that's like the Mexicans playing the star spangled banner for a fight in Mexico City on July 4, which I'm guessing they don't.