So where is Wilder team's counter offer?

[Raggamuffin]

Look.

Hearn said that $12.5m for Wilder is somewhere between 25% to 35% of what he expects the fight to be worth.

At 25% that means he expects it to be a $50m fight approximately. That's with AJ home advantage, selling out 90k. So that's non primetime for US viewers which means PPV buys would be well down anyway.

If Team Wilder believes this makes over $100m they are going to want it to happen in the US. So that would mean AJ, the A side giving up home advantage. It would also be guess work. Joshua has not headlined in America and Wilder cannot even sell out his home town.

Joshua is going to want a guaranteed $50m because he will still be the A side in America because of the belts and Team Wilder have no idea

Wait,’wait, wait lmao. Joshua will be the A side in America because of his belts? You’re ****ting me right?

Joshua can't demand anything if the fight is in America. And he isn’t getting $50 mil lmao. Who said that the fight could earn $100 mil Al, Shelly or DiBella anyway?

My only problem that I and the entire boxing world has is why give Wilder a flat fee?

They just neee time to negotiate. Give them time.

[Boksfan]

Wilder team is posturing, all talk no action. Bunch of ducking cowards.

[Raggamuffin]

Like I mentioned, the fight may well be worth more than $100 mil,
and I'm assuming they'll get everything including the European market.
Who knows?
AJ is clearly willing to fight in the US if offered $50 mil flat.
Meaning, they don't have to take Hearn's offer.
They can do it in the US.

Let me see. $50 million flat in the US for Joshua. 12.5 mil flat in the U.K for Wilder. Wtf. I say that we should let them negotiate and show patience. Haymon and Espinosa will get the job done. Nobody has answers here so I’ll go to another thread and talk boxing.

[EnglishOxide]

Wait,’wait, wait lmao. Joshua will be the A side in America because of his belts? You’re ****ting me right? .

Yes.

If you disagree you need to tell me who else Wilder is going to fight where he can earn 5x his highest payday.

Go.

[Boksfan]

This fight is easy to make, Wilder fan told me this fight will do more than 125 million dollars in Vegas. Just offer Joshua 50 million and Wilder keep 75 million. Joshua already agreed to take flat fee, I'm sure Wilder team will make that offer in couple of days and we see the fight we want

[Raggamuffin]

Yes.

If you disagree you need to tell me who else Wilder is going to fight where he can earn 5x his highest payday.

Go.

What you just said makes absolutely no sense lmao. And then you said “Go”.

The money always works itself out. But Joshua wont be the A side in America, and even if that were to happen he isn’t getting close to $50 mil lmao.

In America they would both get paid handsomely. In the UK Joshua is the cash cow.

What everyone wants to know is why the “flat rate” for Wilder to fight Joshua in the U.K?

[Holler]

Joshua can't demand anything if the fight is in America.

Of course he can. No AJ, no fight.

Deal only happens if both sides are happy.

[Curt Henning]

it was hearn that told finkel in december of last year that he was going to put some numbers together and get back to them....and finkel has had the ortiz fight ahead of him

give him some time to do the proper market research and put a US offer together....he will....dont worry

[Holler]

My only problem that I and the entire boxing world has is why give Wilder a flat fee?

Do you really not know the answer to this already? It's very, very simple.

Because they can. Because they hold almost all the cards. Because their fighter is the bigger star, is the unified champion, is the bigger draw. etc etc etc.

They're making a point about where they see Wilder and how they value him. They're making him an offer which he won't accept despite it being:

5 times his biggest ever purse.

Twice as much money as Parker got in AJ's last fight.

Despite the fact that if he wins the fight he makes boxing history AND triggers a rematch in which he earns double in the second

and despite the fact that if he beats AJ twice he's a free agent who is catapulted into the top rank of world boxing and will earn 10 to 20 times his current purses for the rest of his career.

They're offering him a deal which if we were to believe Deontay's words:

“I always said I want to unify all the titles. My goal is to unify,”

puts him two fights away from achieving his dream. All he has to do is beat a guy over two fights he describes as a 'joke' and in the process earn nearly $40m in the process.

They've made this offer because Wilder will refuse it and in the process show that all the talk, all the calling out, all the baddest man on the planet or I don't care about money, is just that.

Talk.

So Wilder will refuse it because he is about money, because he doesn't back himself to beat AJ and because he and his backers are desperate to get as big a slice of the revenue that AJ has generated by virtue of being braver and more ambitious than the bronze bomber ever dreamt of.

They may as well have tied a bow on that offer and written 'know your place' on it.

That's why a flat fee.

Once he rejects it everyone will know where he really stands and I expect the next offer from Matchroom will be a percentage share, but at a figure that reflects Wilder's actual value.

[Raggamuffin]

Of course he can. No AJ, no fight.

Deal only happens if both sides are happy.

AJ can’t demand $50 mil in America foh, lmao.