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  • #11
    Joshua fans, quick question. Why should Wilder take a flat fee when you said, and even voted in polls that Manny AND GG shouldn’t take “flat fees”? I’ll be back later.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
      So you don’t know if it was Al, Shelly or Lou eh? Ok maybe you can answer this. If they’re offering Wilder $12.5 mil..how much does Joshua stand to make? Why the flat fee?
      Doe, the ball is in Wilder's court.
      Question is why is he not accepting the A-side's offer?
      I'll answer it for you, if you're too dense to figure it out.
      It's because they think the fight is worth more than what Hearn is projecting.
      So why aren't they doing it in the US so they'll be free of Hearn's crap?
      I repeat it for you. Hearn is not the only player in the game.
      In fact, he hasn't made any PPV fight in the US.
      Haymon and Espinoza did.
      So where is all this refusal coming from?
      Last edited by rickJen; 04-14-2018, 09:46 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
        So you don’t know if it was Al, Shelly or Lou eh? Ok maybe you can answer this. If they’re offering Wilder $12.5 mil..how much does Joshua stand to make? Why the flat fee?
        AJ offered to accept a flat fee doe.
        No big deal.

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        • #14
          Maybe they’re not negotiating through the media?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by genrick View Post
            Doe, the ball is in Wilder's court.
            Question is why is he not accepting the A-side's offer?
            I'll answer it for you, if you're too dense to figure it out.
            It's because they think the fight is worth more than Hearn is projecting.
            So why aren't they doing it in the US so they'll be free of Hearn's crap?
            I repeat it for you. Hearn is not the only player in the game.
            In fact, he hasn't made any PPV fight in the US.
            Haymon and Espinoza did.
            So where is all this refusal coming from?
            So you don’t really know much of anything since you can’t answer my questions. But you sure do have a lot to say on that his matter lmao. Why the flat fee again?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by genrick View Post
              AJ offered to accept a flat fee doe.
              No big deal.
              I don’t understand this statement and I’m not trying to be funny. Ok I’ll ask my question and his way. If Joshua is the A side and he can have the fight in the UK, then why did they offer Wilder a flat fee and no percentage?

              I can tell you why flat fees are offered but I’m curious to read your answer.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                So you don’t really know much of anything since you can’t answer my questions. But you sure do have a lot to say on that his matter lmao. Why the flat fee again?
                You're going in circles.
                Look at the title of the thread.
                Why is Hearn the only one making offers?
                If Wilder's team feel the fight is worth more in the US,
                why not do it in the US?
                You don't even have to ask these silly flat fee questions.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                  So you don’t know if it was Al, Shelly or Lou eh? Ok maybe you can answer this. If they’re offering Wilder $12.5 mil..how much does Joshua stand to make? Why the flat fee?

                  Look.

                  Hearn said that $12.5m for Wilder is somewhere between 25% to 35% of what he expects the fight to be worth.

                  At 25% that means he expects it to be a $50m fight approximately. That's with AJ home advantage, selling out 90k. So that's non primetime for US viewers which means PPV buys would be well down anyway.

                  If Team Wilder believes this makes over $100m they are going to want it to happen in the US. So that would mean AJ, the A side giving up home advantage. It would also be guess work. Joshua has not headlined in America and Wilder cannot even sell out his home town.

                  Joshua is going to want a guaranteed $50m because he will still be the A side in America because of the belts and Team Wilder have no idea how much money they can generate.

                  Don't forget Joshua already earns a hell of a lot, he's going to require a substantial guaranteed purse to travel.

                  I don't even see how Wilder earns more in a home fight.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by genrick View Post
                    You're going in circles.
                    Look at the title of the thread.
                    Why is Hearn the only one making offers?
                    If Wilder's team feel the fight is worth more in the US,
                    why not do it in the US?
                    You don't even have to ask these silly flat fee questions.
                    Tough questions eh lol. Ok this is very simple. Is there a timeline as to when Wilder and his team should respond with their counter off or are you just being impatient? You did ask where.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                      Tough questions eh lol. Ok this is very simple. Is there a timeline as to when Wilder and his team should respond with their counter off or are you just being impatient? You did ask where.
                      Like I mentioned, the fight may well be worth more than $100 mil,
                      and I'm assuming they'll get everything including the European market.
                      Who knows?
                      AJ is clearly willing to fight in the US if offered $50 mil flat.
                      Meaning, they don't have to take Hearn's offer.
                      They can do it in the US.

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