is vanes really that bad a stand in?

[Madison Boxing]

both trout and vanes were considered legit fights at 154 in the past, but that was years ago, today they are nothing but gatekeepers and neither belongs at 160...
people here made fun of boo boo when he was knocked down by vanes, basically vanes will be considered a cherry pick even for 154 champions...

Correct!

It's not like he's not even a top 10 middleweight, he isn't a middleweight full stop!!

This is hilarious how you tried to justify Spike and now this...hilarious

when the hell did i justify spike lol. and im nto saying hes perfect but its a stand in opponent you lot dont seem to understand theres not a prime marvin hagler in the middleweight division waiting to step in. 154 to 160 isnt much of a jump either, there has been MUCH worse stand in opponents. its a perfectly reasonable stand in opponent from someone who has shown they can mix it with world class opposition.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

This is hilarious how you tried to justify Spike and now this...hilarious

At the very least Spike is an actual Middleweight coming off a solid win. GGG-Vanes is a disgraceful fight

[Eff Pandas]

Anyone seems like a subpar stand in for Canelo, but Vanes gets his best W's off of twitter ffs. He needs to be going back n forth with Briggs or Bellow all day or something.

[tokon]

At the very least Spike is an actual Middleweight coming off a solid win. GGG-Vanes is a disgraceful fight

Yes, I'm with you on this!

[richardt]

Problem is Vanes has been off almost 2 years bro, not a good look.

Exactly, and Vanes is a jr middleweight.

[Boxfan83]

I think Vanes will go 12. Armenians are tough ass dudes.

[Robbie Barrett]

I think the replies to this thread say it all.

[Larry the boss]

when the hell did i justify spike lol. and im nto saying hes perfect but its a stand in opponent you lot dont seem to understand theres not a prime marvin hagler in the middleweight division waiting to step in. 154 to 160 isnt much of a jump either, there has been MUCH worse stand in opponents. its a perfectly reasonable stand in opponent from someone who has shown they can mix it with world class opposition.

it is a pathetic fight period,horrible

[BillyBoxing]

Exactly, and Vanes is a jr middleweight.

Not a big deal to me.

That's called "jr middleweight for a reason", Vanes is 6 ft and I remember him being 164 on fight night vs Andrade.


Same for Jacobs fighting Sulecki, Sulecki is 6.1 ft, he will be fine at 160.

[BillyBoxing]

it is a pathetic fight period,horrible

I hope you said the same when Wilder (who is your avi) took on an half retired Bermane on short notice.

They almost got Bermane killed in here.