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  • lex_fugitive
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    #131
    Well, Wilder is an idiot for claiming it would make $100 million. It won't. If anything it will make less the more we see AJ doing his robot'klitschko style of no action.

    Wilder isn't giving AJ $50 million, because the whole purse for both would be lucky to be that. I see the U.K. starting to lose interest in AJ, and Wilder is an American. I believe the Wlad fight got roughly $50 million altogether, AJ and Wlad's paydays combined. I would expect AJ-Wilder to do about the same. Which if it makes $50 million, $12.5 mill is a 75-25 split and $50 mill for AJ would be a 100-0 split.

    Wilder was speaking in hyperbole. He was exaggerating. He knows the fight isn't making $100 million for the fighters to split. That is the truth. So many idiots out there. Oh, Wilder doesn't want the fight he won't give him $50 mill and he won't accept $12.5 mill. Yes, because he is the WBC heavyweight champion of the world, coming off a FOTY candidate against a top hw with skill and real ko power. He deserves to be treated like a professional boxer. Professional boxers go with a purse split for basically every fight. Pros don't fight for set fees in ppv fights. They usually get a minimum amount and then if it makes so much a certain percentage from the ppv revenue.

    If the fight is going to make $100 million, then why can't AJ give Wilder more than 12.5% of the purse? Oh, that's right, because that was Wilder speaking in hyperbole. All the idiots claiming oh, it will make 60-100 mill, so why is Wilder ducking? The real question would be, if the fights makes that much, why will AJ only offer 12.5% to Wilder? That would be ducking.

    Give Wilder a percentage. I say 60/40 AJ. If its in the states, I could easily see 65/35 AJ. Cut out this set amount for a ppv bs. AJ was willing to negotiate with Parker who demanded 40% for quite a long time. But with Wilder, nope, here you can get this set amount or no fight. We are not negotiating.

    The entire world knows AJ is ducking Wilder. It is literally a textbook definition of ducking. I didn't hear everyone calling for AJ to not fight Parker, because Parker was ducking, by wanting 40%. After weeks of negotations and Parker still demanding 40%, still no one crying how Parker doesn't want the fight and is ducking. But AJ makes one non-serious offer (a serious offer for this fight would be based on a percentage), and his fanboys come out in force, saying this proves Wilder is ducking AJ. No, it proves, Wilder isn't going to accept what would amount to a 25 percent cut or a 0 percent cut of the pie. If AJ is not scared, Hearn would enter NEGOTATIONS with Wilder's team. Like he has for every other opponent AJ has ever fought.

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    • Holler
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      #132
      Hearn sets it out here:

      https://********/y8OZeTxJQ7k?t=509

      Some interesting points:

      'On a conservative budget it represents 30%, could be 35%'
      'If it does really well, might be a little bit less, could be 27%'
      'Five times Wilder's highest purse ever'
      'Deontay Wilder on this deal makes double what Joseph Parker made'
      'The Wilder fight is a bigger fight, that's why he's going to make twice as much money as Parker'
      'If you beat Joshua in the rematch you've been offered you will make double what you make this time'
      'You win that second match and you have the keys to the kingdom'

      Hearn again on AJ's position:
      https://********/y8OZeTxJQ7k?t=1395

      'We think we're being very fair. We're giving you a solid guaranteed purse. It's the fight we want next'

      So on this offer Wilder is being given 5 times his highest ever purse, making between 25-35% of the pot, makes double on a successful rematch and because of his opponents hard work and previous overpayment he gets to fight for the historic title of undisputed champion and to add 3 major titles plus the IBO to his WBC. If he beats him twice he's the biggest star in world boxing and the value for every subsequent defence will go through the roof.

      I think Wilder rejects it and holds out for a percentage share. I think that's what his managers will recommend and I agree with them. If the fight out performs projections it's fair that Wilder shares in that upside. I do however think that if viewed in the context of Wilder's previous earnings and the amount he brings to revenue that this offer cannot be viewed as ducking on AJ's part and to argue as such is risible.
      Last edited by Holler; 04-14-2018, 03:43 AM.

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      • Bonduu
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        #133
        Originally posted by geojams
        AJ isn't serious. He knows wilder cant front that money. If he was serious with this offer he should state that "if the fight generates 100million, I will give wilder 50%" but he hasn't said that. he wants wilder to front it because he knows it can't be done.
        AJ doesn't know ****, Wilder has promoters, they are the ones to sell this fight dumbass, they should peddle their behinds in Las Vegas looking for sponsors at least they should try to at least do something other than make Wilder look all mouth and plain ******...if Eddie Hearn was Wilders promoter he would have had this fight made...sad but true!

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        • Bonduu
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          #134
          Originally posted by lion33lit
          You are clearly not a fan-girl caught up in the hoopla & hype....clear concise post!

          More like horse-shlt talk, Wilder's promoters are jokes, America is such a large rich country, they have promoted Wilder badly...Wilder's team should hit Las Vegas looking for sponsors not whinnying and crying... Is there a law that says only AJ's team need to offer a contract? AJ has sent an offer twice now but have we seen any counter offer from Wilder? NO!

          All they do is cry in social media while ******s such as you both lap it up!

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          • rickJen
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            #135
            So where is the counter offer these clowns in the Wilder camp have promised?
            If they think this fight is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, then why aren't they sending their own offer?
            Do the fight in the US and have Dibella the main promoter.
            It's not like Haymon and Espinoza's Showtime have zero clue in this.
            Give AJ his $50 mil FLAT asking price, and you get the remaining balance which you think is worth more than half of what AJ is asking.
            Why do these clowns keep making things complicated?

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            • IconBoy
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              #136
              People arguing about other people's money lol. Who cares what another man gets, you can't spend wilders money. AJ is the A side and deserves the lion's share, the only thing Wilder brings to the table is his chicken legs and the WBC strap. If Wilder and his camp believe it will do 100 million then pay AJ.

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              • brettWall
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                #137
                Originally posted by genrick
                So where is the counter offer these clowns in the Wilder camp have promised?
                If they think this fight is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, then why aren't they sending their own offer?
                Do the fight in the US and have Dibella the main promoter.
                It's not like Haymon and Espinoza's Showtime have zero clue in this.
                Give AJ his $50 mil FLAT asking price, and you get the remaining balance which you think is worth more than half of what AJ is asking.
                Why do these clowns keep making things complicated?
                It's not even that complicated. What makes it complicated is when people just talk without doing their homework. They should hire Schaefer, who poisoned the atmosphere saying it's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. If so, then by all means take the helm and do the fight in Vegas.

                Problem is, Hearn is the only one running numbers, which is mostly through experience and guesswork. It also involves risk. But the US counterpart prefer to just mostly talk and guess.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #138
                  hearn offers him 5 times his biggest purse, twice as much as they paid parker (also undefeated belt holder)- nsb response = joshua doesnt want the fight!!!!!!!! beyond ******ed the people on here, how can you not see whos ducking the fight.

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                  • Redgloveman
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by RapidSon
                    Tell your champ to make a legit offer and don't run to the media talking about give me 50 million without any details on negotiations
                    It was a hypothetical point you dumbass.

                    He's responding to the fact that Wilder's team were saying it's a $100m fight

                    They did this by saying that $12.5m only represents a 12% split... you have to be an idiot not to be able to work that out.

                    therefore $50m would represent 50%. So AJ says

                    "I will happily take 50% if you firm in your belief that the fight is worth $100m" knowing that they have already offered him 60%


                    Do you get it now? Jesus

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                    • Raggamuffin
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                      #140
                      You guys are getting caught up listening to Wilder interviews while they are negotiating. None of you have answered why Wilder should take a flat fee when you didn’t want GG or Pac to. Not one of you Joshua fanatics have given a legit answer, not one of you.

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