Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager Shakes Head at Joshua's $50 Million Request

[Raggamuffin]

So how does this hiterto unproven draw of Wilder translate into income for the fight? It's taking place in the UK because Wilder can't deliver comparable gates in the States. There's no US PPV because he's never demonstrated a capacity to deliver that and the time won't be right in any case.

So all you have is more people tuning in, maybe, than were the case for AK vs Parker or Klitschko. Showtime aren't going to massively increase the amount they pay for a non PPV fight, so where is this additional money Wilder brings in that justifies paying him more?

If you're saying it will do more because it's a fight for undisputed then doesn't that mean that revenue rightly belongs with the man who has assembled 4 belts overpaying in the process, rather than the man who has done nothing but sit on one of them?

You don’t have a ****en clue what you’re talking about and here’s why. Wilder doesn’t have to fight AJ but he wants to. Second he agreed to fighting in his backyard. Third he agrees that in the UK Joshua is the A side.

So wtf should he agree to a flat fee when YOU didn’t want Pac or GG to take a flat fee from Floyd and Canelo? You don’t have an answer. You’ll post some ****** bull**** answer that makes no sense.

[uppercut510]

So they reject 6x his highest reported payday say the fight is worth 100m and then Joshua asks for 50% of that and now they are saying 12.5 is a smaller percentage and that Joshua is getting about 100%? He's not making a great deal of sense and is contradicting himself. Joshua simply said give me 50m and you take 50m which according to their projections is 50% each.

I think the fight will get done but it's Team Wilder that has rejected both great proposals thus far. One for $12.5m and one for $50m. If the fight doesn't happen it's obviously on Wilder.

bro uve been posting this same thing like 5x a day

[CaineP]

It's my understanding that Wilder's fights aren't currently shown on PPV in the US?

We're also talking about a fight that will take place on UK PPV during UK primetime which means it will be on in the afternoon in the US. I don't think that will make it an attractive proposition for US PPV?

So I'm not sure this point has any relevance to the discussion or indeed to the negotiation process?

Wilder operates in the largets ppv market!!!

That is just a fact!!!!

[Squ□redCircle34]

AJ is already up, that's why he's calling da shots...Lol.....Wilder can't make it up......He is doing Wilder a favor and not the other way round.....Wilder is worth nothing.....He has no money to bring to the table and yet he is behaving like he has the world.....He should take that $12.5 million or move on to build his own empire. He wants to earn big money when he has done nothing but fight B and Z side fighters....If he really wants to fight and collect those belts, he would shut the **** up and take the fight

Shut that sh!+ down, Hearn is the one that offered a flat fee instead of a fair percentage!

Have some class, you dont offer a fellow undefeated champion with a potential US market behind them and who as well is helping give you your biggest payday to date as well!

[Robbie Barrett]

Wilder operates in the largets Us market!!!

That is just a fact!!!!

Which speaks volumes about his drawing power. Having a larger market and being 10x less of a draw.

[Holler]

You don’t have a ****en clue what you’re talking about and here’s why. Wilder doesn’t have to fight AJ but he wants to. Second he agreed to fighting in his backyard. Third he agrees that in the UK Joshua is the A side.

So wtf should he agree to a flat fee when YOU didn’t want Pac or GG to take a flat fee from Floyd and Canelo? You don’t have an answer. You’ll post some ****** bull**** answer that makes no sense.

I don't have an answer because I'm not arguing that he should. I think he should hold out for a percentage as I've argued here and here

Wilder isn't the commercial force AJ is, but he deserves some respect nonetheless. The flat fee aspect seems excessively hardball to me.

In the post you've quoted above I'm saying that in a fight taking place against AJ in the UK in front of UK PPV that Wilder is not going to be making a significant contribution to the revenue over and above what AJ is generating in his most recent fights. That's because there's a natural ceiling in the UK market that AJ is rapidly approaching.

I don't know how I can be any clearer on this or explain it better but if you're still unsure, or maybe confusing me with someone else, then let me know and I'll try again.

[Holler]

Wilder operates in the largets Us market!!!

That is just a fact!!!!

Yes he does and if Wilder's name was Floyd Mayweather Jr then we'd be having a very different conversation, because Mayweather or Canelo have demonstrated their ability to generate vast sums from the larger US market.

Now, how exactly has Wilder demonstrated this? Or do you think that any US fighter deserves a premium when fighting abroad? In which case, why?

[rickJen]

Aren't these clowns in the Wilder team said they're going to make a counter offer?
Where tf is it? Why aren't they doing their homework?
These must be laziest and greediest B-sides I have ever seen in boxing.
All they do is yell gimme gimme gimme...

[rickJen]

They should be hiring that sleazebag Schaefer who said the fight is worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

[greeneye99]

I have been on this chat for a short period now and I am NOT impressed with the level of intelligence and arguments here and sense of boxing.

I just want this fight to happen as a fan. Anyone expert in boxing can see what is happening here.

First they offer Wilder 12.5 mio flat fee. And when he decline you flip the script and say well then pay me 50 mio flat if you think it is worth 100 mio so it is 50%-50%. But people forgot Wilder asked 50% - 50% and that was not ok. And when Wilder said I will accept anything but we do the reverse in the rematch it is not ok. And then your promoter put up dillian white as the man to beat before he can get a shot af aj.

And this the guy who has been talking about being the A side?

Flat fee in boxing doesn’t mean ****!!! A flat fee is general seen as ducking and disrespectful.

You paid Parker at least 33%
We are talking about PARKER, PARKER!!!!

And to make things worse....people talking about it will be Wilder’s biggest paycheck ever so it is a good deal.

That is the DUMBEST of all the arguments. It is not how much you have made but what the potential of the fight is.

How much did Parker touhed before the AJ fight?

It takes 2 to tango!!!

Wilder operates in the largest ppv market. This will be aj’s largest paycheck ever as well.

Seriously....people need to get their head out of aj’s ass and think straight for a while.

Even if it is a 60mio fight...12.5 is 20%.....****ING 20%.

You guys are delusional.

Parker's 33%...$6M