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  • yankees7448
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    #111
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    bullshht, they could have fought Saunders in June
    Nope.

    they could have selected Derev weeks ago, which would give them plenty of time to promote the fight
    Not with the budget HBO was offering.

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    • stealthradon
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      #112
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      bullshht, they could have fought Saunders in June

      they could have selected Derev weeks ago, which would give them plenty of time to promote the fight

      what you are saying is, that Golovkin could not sell a ticket if they were free

      their problem is, as soon as they had a chance, they ran around selecting scrubs.... then they cancelled the venue, before they even selected an opponent.....

      maybe HBO got sick of carrying them, but hard luck for them..... Golovkin just made 15mil and he will make another 15mil in September

      btw kid, how will they have money to pay Vanes once they flick Derev his step-aside fee?

      #excusesarelikeaclitoriseverycvnthasone
      Weeks ago when Canelo the coward knew he would get the maximum sentence for his drug abuse? Not that he would have been able to fight anyway, with his knee surgery.

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      • icha
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        #113
        Originally posted by yankees7448
        We can't hold GGG to standards different from everyone else. Andre Ward could have taken on Adonis Stevenson or Tony Bellew but chose not to because they didn't offer enough money.




        Two weeks ago, IBF, WBA, WBO light heavyweight champion Andre Ward (32-0, 16 KOs), 32 years old, caught everyone by surprise when he announced his retirement from the sport. Ward, a unified champion at super middleweight, officially made his move to the light heavyweight division in early 2016. He only had four bouts at the weight, but in those four he dominated highly regarded contender Sullivan Barrera and picked up back to back wins over former division ruler Sergey Kovalev.


        Floyd Mayweather wouldn't even get out of bed to read a contract that guaranteed him less than 30 million for a fight let alone sign it. Yet people say GGG should take less money to make the fight with Sergei D happen because he could afford to take less? Come on. Just because you are a boxing fan and not a banker it doesn't mean you should ignore the business side of things and how they affect decisions. A 60/40 split of 10 million dollars leaves both sides making a good amount of money. A 60/40 split of 1 million leaves GGG making only 200k more than a man with 13 fights on his resume with two of those fights coming against guys who had a .500 record or worse.
        there is nothing wrong in boxers making business decisions, but just remember ggg is the guy that accused canelo of being a businessman... he choosed to held him self to different stardads... i think thats why he gets critisized more than the rest on situations like this... if you admitt that ggg is not fighting his mando cuz he made a business decision then fine, no need to debate anything...

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        • yankees7448
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          #114
          Originally posted by icha
          there is nothing wrong in boxers making business decisions, but just remember ggg is the guy that accused canelo of being a businessman... he choosed to held him self to different stardads... i think thats why he gets critisized more than the rest on situations like this... if you admitt that ggg is not fighting his mando cuz he made a business decision then fine, no need to debate anything...
          That's assuming Sergei D would have taken 400k. I don't think he would have. That's what he was offered to fight Andrade and the fight with GGG is bigger and a lot more meaningful. Even if he was willing to do so it still not fair. There is a difference between "not being a businessman" and a fight where the man with almost 40 fights and who holds 3 championship belts only earns 200k more than a man with 13 fights.
          Last edited by yankees7448; 04-16-2018, 04:26 PM.

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            #115
            Originally posted by icha
            there is nothing wrong in boxers making business decisions, but just remember ggg is the guy that accused canelo of being a businessman... he choosed to held him self to different stardads... i think thats why he gets critisized more than the rest on situations like this... if you admitt that ggg is not fighting his mando cuz he made a business decision then fine, no need to debate anything...
            If he was a businessman he wouldn't have said anything about Canelo using PEDs. As far as his fight goes with whoever there is only so much money available and very little time to negotiate. I don't like the opponents but let's be realistic.

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            • icha
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              #116
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              If he was a businessman he wouldn't have said anything about Canelo using PEDs. As far as his fight goes with whoever there is only so much money available and very little time to negotiate. I don't like the opponents but let's be realistic.
              he had a meltdown and regreats, now beggin for nsac to do only a 6 month suspension..
              they are still chasing the ped user payday lol...

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              • icha
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                #117
                Originally posted by yankees7448
                That's assuming Sergei D would have taken 400k. I don't think he would have. That's what he was offered to fight Andrade and the fight with GGG is bigger and a lot more meaningful. Even if he was willing to do so it still not fair. There is a difference between "not being a businessman" and a fight where the man with almost 40 fights and who holds 3 championship belts only earns 200k more than a man with 13 fights.
                you can assume lots of things, but the fact is ggg isnt offering sergie the fight...

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by yankees7448
                  Nope.

                  Not with the budget HBO was offering.

                  Originally posted by stealthradon
                  Weeks ago when Canelo the coward knew he would get the maximum sentence for his drug abuse? Not that he would have been able to fight anyway, with his knee surgery.

                  you excuse-making muppets need to get your story straight

                  look what just happened with Gassiev.....

                  Sanchez Sends Gassiev Home After Postponement of Usyk Bout
                  It was announced earlier today by the World Boxing Super Series that Oleksander Usyk has a ''minor elbow injury'' that would prevent him from facing Murat Gassiev in the finals of their cruiserweight tournament which was scheduled for May 11th.


                  like I told you clowns..... that is EXACTLY what they could have done with Golovkin if he had selected Saunders in June

                  give him a 7-10 day break, even 14 days, to avoid over-training..... on FULL diet, light road-work only, purely maintenance..... while they arrange some lefties..... and then slide Golovkin back into the groove with up to a 7 or even 8-week camp should they deem it necessary

                  they had plenty of time, that is standard stuff..... and they had a willing opponent

                  that fight COULD have happened, but it did not..... AGAIN

                  your boy has been writing cheques with his mouth that he cannot cash with his fists

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by icha
                    he had a meltdown and regreats, now beggin for nsac to do only a 6 month suspension..
                    they are still chasing the ped user payday lol...
                    Business men don't have meltdowns. Show me a link where he is begging that Canelo only gets a 6 month suspension.

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                    • icha
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by TonyGe
                      Business men don't have meltdowns. Show me a link where he is begging that Canelo only gets a 6 month suspension.
                      yeah, lets just pretent ggg isnt after the ped user payment anymore...

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