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  • chrisJS
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    #31
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    I’m the source. "The contract does not indicate where the fight will take place, when it will take place, or even whether it will be Joshua’s next fight".
    You spoke to Haymon or Espinoza and they said "They are rookies"?

    Why don't you post that article then?

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      #32
      Wilder's team should take control of promotions. Let's say it's PPV and in Vegas it would sell maybe on the high end 300k at $80 a piece so $24m plus the gate would sell out because of the traveling Brits so maybe $10m so let's say the total overall pot here is $40m with everything factored in. Half goes to the fighters so let's work with $20m and then split that 50/50 with $10m each. Is that a better deal for Wilder? I've done the math and came to the conclusion it's actually not. I've also done the math based on what Joshua would likely get and his last purses and came to the conclusion that's also not a good deal.

      I just want the fight but if Wilder keeps changing his story about what he'd take and keeps rejecting then he's just gonna have to have his promoter run the show or accept the fight or be labeled a ducker. He ducked Klit hopefully he doesn't duck Joshua.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Raggamuffin
        Haymon told Espinoza these guys are rookies. They don’t know how to negotiate. They hear Wilders big mouth and take what he says personally when they shouldn’t. And then they come up with that garbage flat fee, take it or leave it, you have 48 hours offer.
        The take it or leave it is childish. I tell you what though, it works with their fanbase.

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          #34
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          Maybe Wilder and his team should take lead as the main promoter and come up with a flat fee for Joshua and make it a 50-/50 purse. After all isn't Wilder the one that brings the crowd, the ratings and is the undisputed champion and his team the one that generates all the money and interest?

          Maybe they will counter offer and make it 50/50 and pay Wilder what he wants which is probably $20m or so. Maybe not.
          If you agree to fight in the UK when you don’t have to...and then you have the powerful Al Haymon managing you then why should anyone consider the above? Why lmao... But you have no horse in the race doe right, lmfao.

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            #35
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            You spoke to Haymon or Espinoza and they said "They are rookies"?

            Why don't you post that article then?
            What article? I’m the source.

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              #36
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              The take it or leave it is childish. I tell you what though, it works with their fanbase.
              Exactly.

              That amateur **** doesn’t work here.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                Exactly.

                That amateur **** doesn’t work here.
                The take it or leave it means, we’re interested in the fight...just not now.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  The take it or leave it means, we’re interested in the fight...just not now.
                  This is all you need to know Daze. "The contract does not indicate where the fight will take place, when it will take place, or even whether it will be Joshua’s next fight".

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                    This is all you need to know Daze. "The contract does not indicate where the fight will take place, when it will take place, or even whether it will be Joshua’s next fight".
                    That’s crazy. I’m gonna do a lil digging and see what I find.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      If you agree to fight in the UK when you don’t have to...and then you have the powerful Al Haymon managing you then why should anyone consider the above? Why lmao... But you have no horse in the race doe right, lmfao.
                      How do we know he's agreed to fight there? He's gone back on his statement that he'll accept any offer and doesn't care about the money so it's possible he's gone back on where the fight happens.

                      Joshua's promoter has done a better job for him than Haymon has for Wilder. Apparently he's got the less charismatic fighter, the smaller fan base, the smaller market l and the inferior fighter yet he's secured three titles, two unifications and purses over $15m in front of 80-90k people.

                      Haymon gotta step up then I guess.

                      Wilder should take the money which he said isn't important and it's an easy fight so he'll make more in the return. Something isn't adding up from what he's said to what's he's done.

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