Will GGG retire w/o signature win?

[Madison Boxing]

He's beaten canelo and Jacobs

[j.razor]

Ok, many people thinks GGG won( I am one of them) but people say what counts is the scorecards and end result, with that logic GGG has literally a win over jacobs and a draw over canelo, right? if we go with what people say, we still would have a win over Jacobs and a win over canelo, lets not talk abut lemiux since according to you,someone that is an elite fighter and has made it to the highest level of boxing is overrated.

See the thing here is that I'm not a follower, I know when a fighter is winning a fight cuz the hands are not faster than my eyes & I don't get caught up with jim lampley's commentating or Harold ledderman's scorecard....I see it & hear it but it doesn't fool me. I've been in that ring & I watch plenty of boxing to see the truth.

Go watch the Nelo/golovkin fight & tell me what rounds & time in the rounds of the punches that golovkin landed & vice versa.

[j.razor]

He's beaten canelo and Jacobs

You wish! LOL

[Citizen Koba]

It's looking like GGG's razor close win against Jacobs may end up being his only win over a top opponent.

Kind of a shame that a fighter of GGG's caliber went through his whole prime without fighting top guys.

Now he's 36 and noticeably declining. Is his chance to beat top guys and put his name in boxing history over?

Depends how you define a 'signature win' I guess, but yeah, I'd say it's looking like he won't. People might have said Canelo but I don't particularly consider Canelo a signature win - even if Golovkin had have got the nod I believe he deserved. Jacobs? Nah.

Sad fact is there basically is and was no signature win available for Golovkin at 160 - Maravilla perhaps if he'd managed to get him before his decline or Sturm before he faded into irrelevance maybe? Golovkins reputation as a top fighter is built on his longevity and KO record against a succession of opponents who aren't actually near as bad as often made out, but are in no way exceptional.

How you weigh this against a fighter who might have one or two excellent wins but also some losses on their ledger is a subjective matter I guess.

[Metho_4u]

I dont understand, you are saying saunders schooled lemiux? he did, but was 4 fights after(fabian and marcos reyes scream tune ups) but GGG demolished lemiux. i just dont understand what are you triying to say, you think Saunders will win against GGG, or you want GGG to fight zurdo?zurdo has a good 15 pounds over GGG and at almost 6'3?.. I dont understand why people keep on asking him to fight above his weight class and if you say he called chavez or whatever, we can discuss further.

They said 154-168... fight Ramirez then

[Metho_4u]

He's beaten canelo and Jacobs

No he didn't, he got a draw... check the record

[Metho_4u]

So you have no **** and no integrity, good to know we should disregard anything you say from now on, because we know you to be a dishonest tool.

I've got plenty of d1ck... ask your mom

[stealthradon]

I've got plenty of d1ck... ask your mom

She says hers is bigger.

[Metho_4u]

She says hers is bigger.

Well now we know where your anger comes from... cong****!

[Hewito]

See the thing here is that I'm not a follower, I know when a fighter is winning a fight cuz the hands are not faster than my eyes & I don't get caught up with jim lampley's commentating or Harold ledderman's scorecard....I see it & hear it but it doesn't fool me. I've been in that ring & I watch plenty of boxing to see the truth.

Go watch the Nelo/golovkin fight & tell me what rounds & time in the rounds of the punches that golovkin landed & vice versa.

I am with you with most of those points, I watch fights with mute on or sometimes with russian commentators, I've been in the ring as well, but you are saying you are an expert? ok, you are, but most experts agree GGG won the Canelo fight and lots say he won against Jacobs..