Comments Thread For: Shields Offers Charlo, Lara To Replace Canelo, Fight Golovkin

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  • HURTFEELINGS
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    #71
    Originally posted by Boxing1012
    Lol GGG is the 3rd biggest draw in boxing right now
    GGG is the 3rd biggest draw in his weight division, maybe....

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    • Raggamuffin
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      #72
      Originally posted by angkag
      Can't see Charlo ever happening with GGG. I can't see GGG fighting on after a loss (unless its a dodgy one to Canelo that demands Canelo/GGG III), and given his age etc, I doubt he's got more than 4 fights left in him, if that (ok, 5 including the May 5th thing which I doubt counts).

      So Saunders and Canelo take up two of those, then assuming he wins, Canelo might make a third, but then its who else will take the final fight or two ?

      You've got Jacobs, Derevyanchenko, Charlo and Andrade waiting in the wings, and no way he makes it to all of them.
      It's not a fight on GG's radar, but he was only suggested as a possible replacement. GG would gain major props for the win, but it's only a suggestion. I feel bad for GG not being able to fight, but his safety is more important than fighting a suspect Canelo.

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        #73
        Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
        GGG is the 3rd biggest draw in his weight division, maybe....
        Canelo...Joshua...can't think of anyone else above GGG at the moment. I think there are really only 3 PPV guys right now

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          #74
          Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
          I’d like to seee GGG fight the winner of Jacobs and Charlo. Charlo is huge, and it’s funny how these guys make weight. GGG should tell them both, VADA testing every other week until I fight in December. Then yes. Bet Charlo and Jacobs are like no way.
          I agree...Jacobs body transformation has been a little su****ious, and the Charlos both leveled up immensely lately as well, especially with power...you are probably on to something

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            #75
            Originally posted by Raggamuffin
            Charlo isn't a guy who needs more experience. And I only suggested him as a replacement. He wants GG and has wanted GG since coming to MW.
            I hear ya....we will see how it all plays out...I just like Charlo as well and don't really think he should take on GGG until he is physically ready for a big puncher at 160. What puncher has he ever really faced, ya know? Just would hate to see him get caught like Lubin and then everyone who was saying Lions Only throws him under the bus faster than they did Andrade after the Culcay fight

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              #76
              Originally posted by Raggamuffin
              It's not a fight on GG's radar, but he was only suggested as a possible replacement. GG would gain major props for the win, but it's only a suggestion. I feel bad for GG not being able to fight, but his safety is more important than fighting a suspect Canelo.
              Yeah a lot of us would give him props...but Charlo is about the biggest risk/lowest reward fight he can take right now...besides all of us who follow boxing, no one knows who Charlo is...but I do hope it happens, would be exciting however long it lasted

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                #77
                A fight in the fall isn't exactly a "replacement" for a May fight. But Canelo might be good to go by late fall depending on the 4/18 ruling.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Boxing1012
                  Canelo...Joshua...can't think of anyone else above GGG at the moment. I think there are really only 3 PPV guys right now
                  His headlining events STATS and PPV sales, say HE'D NOT A PPV STAR. He needs Canelo, he cant carry a PPV so he doesnt even qualify

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
                    His headlining events STATS and PPV sales, say HE'D NOT A PPV STAR. He needs Canelo, he cant carry a PPV so he doesnt even qualify
                    He is the 3rd highest paid boxer right now per fight....especially with endorsements...gets over 1 million views on HBO every non PPV fight...if you want to say getting 200k views and making 5-10 million to fight Jacobs means he isn't a star, then I don't know what to tell ya....only Joshua and Canelo can sell more on their own... and no one else except Joshua/Canelo are close. 1/2) Are Joshua/Canelo and 3) GGG then distant 4) everyone else

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Boxing1012
                      I agree that Angulo had to take punishment from Lara to get close enough to drop him twice. Probably why Canelo couldn't do the same thing. He would have had to take more shots and didn't want a hematoma on his head. But GGG is levels ahead of Angulo. And it would be Lara's first fight at 160. Just a tough test for Lara.

                      And I don't know about eked out a decision. Jacobs fought a good fight and survived. But he did lose the punch stats in 9 out of 11 round (1 tie). Got dropped once and hurt multiple times. Never hurt or dropped GGG. And GGG was champion; Jacobs should have to do a LOT more to take the belts imo.

                      And Lara can move better than Jacobs and probably box a little better. But he can't hit nearly as hard. Without being able to keep GGG off of him it may end up somewhat like Brook/GGG?

                      And I really like Lara, I do think he would be a problem for anyone around his weight. But my point was that saying 'he is the one' to beat GGG and GGG is avoiding him is just strange to me. He is a weight class below and has never truly taken steps to take that fight. But I actually would like to see it.

                      we saw how ineffective/hesitant Golovkin was when Jacobs and Canelo used a little movement and good timing

                      Lara would give him fits

                      so..... Lara has to earn that fight at 160..... but Rosado and Brook did not

                      funny

                      you wouldn't be making silly excuses now, would ya ?

                      when Team Bullshht refused to fight Lara, stating that Willie Monroe was a bigger draw..... it was clearly obvious that they would never fight him, and it was clearly obvious why

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