Luis Ortiz is overrated

[redmish]

He's a good fighter and it was a good win for wilder. I don't rate wilder too highly but credit where it's due, he came through in a really tough fight.

[GhostofDempsey]

Guerrero-multi division champ, mandatory

Ortiz-wbc champ

Hatton p4p top 10 boxer

Berto-former 2 time champ

Maidana-WBA CHAMP

Baldomir-lineal champ

Kessler-unification bout

Abraham=2 division champ-who the hell hypes this tho?

Dawson-former lineal champ at 175


how the hell can you act like these are **** fights?

Hold on, didn't say they were shyt, I'm just saying they were hyped up as elite class opponents, which they clearly were not.

[boliodogs]

Ortiz was a respected contender and Wilder knocked him out. It was a good win for Wilder. Ortiz is old and slow but he hits hard and has good boxing skills. I don't think he would be an easy fight for anybody. Parker was an undefeated champion and AJ clearly beat him so that was a good win for AJ. I don't think either AJ or Wilder are much if any better than Miller or Povetkin. They both can be hit and hurt and they both only average throwing about 35 punches a round. They are both good champions but could lose to each other or Miller or Povetkin in my opinion. Fans of both Wilder and AJ want them to be all time great heavyweights and maybe they will be but I doubt it from what I have seen so far.

[Raggamuffin]

Ortiz is belittled as a 50 year old PED cheat now, yet nobody is screaming anything about what Parker was, lmao. Oh he was the young gun who would give AJ that classic fight and Parker was a bigger threat than Wilder. Wilder destroys Stiverne and yet Takam beats Wilder and everyone on his resume. We know how this works UK fans. We're not new to this, YOU ARE! Lmao. Pac's fans put every fighters fans on notice with their lunacy. And this was after Pac was ko'd by Torrecampo and Singsurat. Lmao

[Johnnyrider]

When Wilder fought Ortiz I thought they were the two best heavyweights in the world. And after watching Joshua versus Parker I still feel that way

[Metho_4u]

Just because Wilder beat him. Wilder bandwagons are all upping Ortiz up.

Joshua, Parker, Miller, Whyte, and Andy Ruiz all beat Ortiz.

Oh here we go... everyone claimed he'd beat wilder and now he's overrated lol... can't win.

[KillaMane26]

Ortiz was considered #3 b4 Wilder fight. Then no silled Deyontae koed him now Ortiz a bum. BOXING 2018

[Metho_4u]

Ortiz off PEDs is no longer special, I agree. The same will be true, I think, for Povetkin if/when he meets Joshua

How about if Joshua gets off the ****?

[4truth]

How about if Joshua gets off the ****?

I don't know much about how Joshua tests. Does he stay in the VADA program between fights? If he does, you should certainly give him the benefit of the doubt.

[dan_cov]

I actually think Ortiz gets underrated because of his age and probably more so now Wilder has beaten him.
Ortiz is a bad man and avoided for good reason despite his age he's ****ing dangerous.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if he beat any of the other HWs.

He just lost still nobody wants to fight him, strange for this current era. Should tell anybody all they need to know really.