Does any unbiased fan really believe Wilder's team has never contacted Hearn?

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  • Stinger1
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    #11
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    But that is such a great example of Eddie manipulating the public. Wilder says all sorts of stuff publicly to hype the fight. That has nothing to do with the numbers being discussed behind the scenes and Eddie knows that. Eddie is one of the best promoters in the world, if not the best. He's not an idiot. Only an idiot would believe what Wilder says in an interview trying to hype the fight over what's being discussed privately with Haymon and Finkel.

    Hearn simply didn't want the fight and used Wilder's interview as an excuse to stall. Finkel and Hearn were discussing numbers and Hearn promised to send some numbers over in a few days. Then he never did. Wilder's interview didn't even take place during those few days, so it's clearly just a convenient excuse for Hearn to fool people. The timeline doesn't even add up.
    So why didn't Shelley call Eddie and say Wilder's just hyping the fight if the 50-50 or no fight comment isn't true? If AJ came out publicly and said 90-10 or no fight and Wilder#s team ended negotiations and did a deal with someone else you would not be saying the same thing. You would of said AJ was ducking.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #12
      Originally posted by Stinger1
      So why didn't Shelley call Eddie and say Wilder's just hyping the fight if the 50-50 or no fight comment isn't true? If AJ came out publicly and said 90-10 or no fight and Wilder#s team ended negotiations and did a deal with someone else you would not be saying the same thing. You would of said AJ was ducking.
      Same reason why Hearn didn’t call them to verify if 50-50 was true. Has nothing to do with negotiation.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BreWall
        Hmm...seems this post admits Hearn has always been the one who reaches out majority of the time. Finkel on the other hand tried to bypass Eddie and talked to his retired dad, instead. Plus Finkel's email didn't do a damn thing because, as Eddie puts it, Wilder was announcing the fight should be 50/50. What a way to destroy any form of negotiations. (These guys should be coordinating with each other first before going to the media.)

        And wasn't Hearn making an hefty offer to Wilder asking him to fight Dylan Whyte first as a precondition leading to the AJ fight? It was all over the news for weeks.

        Seems Wilder has been uncooperative throughout the whole process.
        You hit the nail on the head doe.
        Just for once why can't this Wilder guy just calm down and think hard first before opening his mouth?
        He was begging for the fight.
        Hearn said fight Dylan Whyte first for $4 mil and you get the AJ fight.
        What did Wilder do? Demand $7 mil for the Whyte fight and a written AJ guarantee, which Hearn was already approving of.
        Kills me.

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          #14
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Same reason why Hearn didn’t call them to verify if 50-50 was true. Has nothing to do with negotiation.
          Well according to Wilder fans we're supposed to believe everything Deontay says. Whats the point of saying it anyway if it wasn't true?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Stinger1
            Well according to Wilder fans we're supposed to believe everything Deontay says. Whats the point of saying it anyway if it wasn't true?
            What he wants and what will be negotiated aren’t always the same. And your first sentence is beyond ******. Are you trying to have an intelligent conversation or just looking for people who believe “everything Deontay says?”
            Last edited by IMDAZED; 04-01-2018, 03:40 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Stinger1
              Well according to Wilder fans we're supposed to believe everything Deontay says. Whats the point of saying it anyway if it wasn't true?
              Exactly. If Wilder says it then it's true and Hearn is lying. But it's biased opinion if anyone British suggests other way round ! Makes me laugh anyone even responds to these three musketeers

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                #17
                Originally posted by Stinger1
                Well Eddie called Finkel to talk about the Whyte fight. Finkel called him back to say they weren't interest and it ended up setting up the meeting with Finkel and Haymon.
                That's not what happened. Why do you believe that's what happened? Is that what you heard Eddie Hearn say?

                We know it's not true because Hearn was live on a radio interview when Finkel called in. So right there we know Hearn is lying when he says he's never been contacted because we literally heard him be contacted live on a radio show.

                The meeting is then set up live on that radio show, so we know it was Finkel taking the initiative to call Hearn to set up a meeting.

                How can Hearn say nobody has ever contacted him when we know of so many confirmed instances where somebody contacted him?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Stinger1
                  So why didn't Shelley call Eddie and say Wilder's just hyping the fight if the 50-50 or no fight comment isn't true?
                  Because Wilder's outburst was in response to Hearn not keeping his word. Hearn said he'd get back to Finkel THAT WEEK with numbers. Hearn lied and never got back to him. So the next week, knowing that Hearn had blown off the negotiations and stopped answering, Wilder took a stronger position in his interviews. So even if Hearn was an idiot and took Wilder's interviews seriously, it still couldn't be the reason for not sending what was promised by a specified deadline because Wilder's comments were after the deadline passed.

                  Unless you're suggesting that Eddie Hearn has a time machine?!?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kezzer
                    If wilder was serious he would’ve been in cardiff

                    Not like you are biased or anything.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      Because Wilder's outburst was in response to Hearn not keeping his word. Hearn said he'd get back to Finkel THAT WEEK with numbers. Hearn lied and never got back to him. So the next week, knowing that Hearn had blown off the negotiations and stopped answering, Wilder took a stronger position in his interviews. So even if Hearn was an idiot and took Wilder's interviews seriously, it still couldn't be the reason for not sending what was promised by a specified deadline because Wilder's comments were after the deadline passed.

                      Unless you're suggesting that Eddie Hearn has a time machine?!?
                      Barry Hearn met Finkel on 29 December. Eddie followed up with an email a few days later saying he would send financial projections within the next week. Wilder then said on the 4th of December its 50-50 or no fight. So Eddie didn't bother wasting his time when Parker's team seemed to be more interested in making the fight.

                      Shelley Finkel is the liar. He said Wilder didn't make the 50-50 or no fight comments until a month after the meeting when in actual fact Wilder made them 5 days after the meeting.

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