Does any unbiased fan really believe Wilder's team has never contacted Hearn?

**Kezzer** · 04-01-2018, 01:03 PM

If wilder was serious he would’ve been in cardiff

Not like you are biased or anything.

**N/A** · 04-01-2018, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by Kezzer

If wilder was serious he would�ve been in cardiff

That is certainly the logic Eddie is trying to push on fans, but since we know for sure that Eddie is a liar, we should be skeptical of his manipulation.

Wilder had a deal with Sky to commentate and then confront AJ in the ring after his win. AJ and Hearn then made it very clear in numerous interviews that Wilder wouldn't be allowed in the ring. So Wilder stayed home. How does that change whether he wants the fight or not? You're being brainwashed by Eddie Hearn.

Not like you are biased or anything.

What is my bias? I like Eddie Hearn a lot. He's probably my favorite promoter right now. But he's clearly lying. Anybody with open eyes should be able to see that. That's why you didn't address my points at all. You know they're true. Eddie has admitted to meeting with team Wilder, admitted to emailing with team Wilder, admitted team Wilder met with his father.

Yet somehow team Wilder has never contacted him? His own words prove he is lying.

**Kezzer** · 04-01-2018, 01:14 PM

If you can’t see yourself that you have bias then I wouldn’t even start a thread like this. Everyone else can see the trolling aspect.

**sparkz2112** · 04-01-2018, 01:20 PM

Maybe an odd question, but who’s job is it to contact who? Doesn’t the A-side always contact the b-side? I don’t remember Maidana or Berto sending mayweather a contract

**brettWall** · 04-01-2018, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

After the fight last night, Eddie Hearn said nobody from Wilder's team has ever contacted him and if they can't "walk the walk" they shouldn't "talk the talk."

It's a good line to manipulate biased fans who want to believe anything Eddie says, but do any unbiased fans believe him?

Eddie has already publicly admitted that he sat down in person to discuss the fight with Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already publicly admitted that he's emailed about the fight with Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already admitted that Shelly Finkel met with the owner of Matchroom (Eddie's father).

So we already know for a fact that Eddie was lying in the ring after the fight. So how could any unbiased observer believe him when it's so easy to figure out that he's definitely lying?

Hmm...seems this post admits Hearn has always been the one who reaches out majority of the time. Finkel on the other hand tried to bypass Eddie and talked to his retired dad, instead. Plus Finkel's email didn't do a damn thing because, as Eddie puts it, Wilder was announcing the fight should be 50/50. What a way to destroy any form of negotiations. (These guys should be coordinating with each other first before going to the media.)

And wasn't Hearn making an hefty offer to Wilder asking him to fight Dylan Whyte first as a precondition leading to the AJ fight? It was all over the news for weeks.

Seems Wilder has been uncooperative throughout the whole process.

**N/A** · 04-01-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by Kezzer

If you can�t see yourself that you have bias then I wouldn�t even start a thread like this. Everyone else can see the trolling aspect.

What is the troll? Eddie stood in the ring and lied to 80,000 people. We know that because he's previously admitted things that completely contradicted what he stated in the ring.

How is it trolling to point out that contradiction?

**yammy25** · 04-01-2018, 01:57 PM

Hearn had preliminary meetings with Haymon and wilders team whereby they both expressed they wished to have the fight done for this year. Thats it end of... thats all that was said and you dont know more than any of the rest of us in that regard.

Barry hearn met finkel on eddies say-so to run through old times and discuss the fight. I have a feeling it wasnt discussed in great detail as barry is nothing to do with AJ. Hearn emailed finkel to state he would get some figures across in regards to the fight in terms of financials, rights etc.

Wilder then came out and said 50/50 or no fight, so hearn didnt bother going back to the table.

Since then.. wilder has stated numerous different demans, the main one being whatever split then reversed in the rematch. Hearn has said this fine.

But as someone with a "promoters license" and "contacts" you should know that wilder does not make his own fights. Jay deas and haymon make those decisions.. finkel does not and neither does dibella or anybody else.

Wilder can say what the **** he likes, make demands and agreements etc , but until somebody from his side THAT CAN MAKE THE DEAL contacts hearn with those stipulations.. then your points are moot.

You are stating hearn HAS to contact them.. why ? he has a number and a figure, if they dont like it tough. If Wilder has a number and shouts it out and hearn agrees to that... then have haymon contact him and state as much.

Why does hearn have to do all the dog work?

**N/A** · 04-01-2018, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by BreWall

Finkel's email didn't do a damn thing because, as Eddie puts it, Wilder was announcing the fight should be 50/50. What a way to destroy any form of negotiations. (These guys should be coordinating with each other first before going to the media.)

But that is such a great example of Eddie manipulating the public. Wilder says all sorts of stuff publicly to hype the fight. That has nothing to do with the numbers being discussed behind the scenes and Eddie knows that. Eddie is one of the best promoters in the world, if not the best. He's not an idiot. Only an idiot would believe what Wilder says in an interview trying to hype the fight over what's being discussed privately with Haymon and Finkel.

Hearn simply didn't want the fight and used Wilder's interview as an excuse to stall. Finkel and Hearn were discussing numbers and Hearn promised to send some numbers over in a few days. Then he never did. Wilder's interview didn't even take place during those few days, so it's clearly just a convenient excuse for Hearn to fool people. The timeline doesn't even add up.

**Stinger1** · 04-01-2018, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

After the fight last night, Eddie Hearn said nobody from Wilder's team has ever contacted him and if they can't "walk the walk" they shouldn't "talk the talk."

It's a good line to manipulate biased fans who want to believe anything Eddie says, but do any unbiased fans believe him?

Eddie has already publicly admitted that he sat down in person to discuss the fight with Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already publicly admitted that he's emailed about the fight with Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already admitted that Shelly Finkel met with the owner of Matchroom (Eddie's father).

So we already know for a fact that Eddie was lying in the ring after the fight. So how could any unbiased observer believe him when it's so easy to figure out that he's definitely lying?

Well Eddie called Finkel to talk about the Whyte fight. Finkel called him back to say they weren't interest and it ended up setting up the meeting with Finkel and Haymon. If Shelley had made numerous calls to Eddie, don't think he would of produced a call log rather than an email that Eddie didn't follow up on?

Here's a question, if Wilder wants the fight so bad why haven't Finkel or Haymon flown to London to discuss the fight? Given they are probably getting 10% each for the fight that's probably going to end up being $1.5-2m a piece. Surely that would be incentive to do everything possible to get the deal done. It seems like Haymon doesn't really give a **** about Wilder and Finkel is retired and just refreshes his emails. No proactiveness from either.

Does any unbiased fan really believe Wilder's team has never contacted Hearn?