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  • soul_survivor
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    AJ v Wilder - The Breakdown

    So, all jokes and back and forth aside, let's have a break down of how this fight could go.

    AJ strengths -
    Good jab
    Power
    Good left hook
    Good footwork
    Strength
    Solid all round boxer

    Wilder strengths -
    Fast hands
    Good stamina
    Very good power

    AJ weaknesses -
    Poor inside game
    Looks to hold too often
    Chin?

    Wilder weaknesses -
    Chin?
    Non-existent inside ability
    Weak jab
    Lack of activity throughout
    Wild, uneducated combinations
    Relies too heavily on power
    Weak footwork, especially when running back from punches

    What could happen?
    AJ has the better, straighter punches and combinations, so if Ortiz can connect as often as he did, AJ will be able to do it more so and match Wilder for height and reach. The problem is, AJ's intention seems to have changed. He looked unwilling and uneasy with exchanges against Takam and again against Parker. After effects of Wlad?

    If Wilder can get through the early rounds (where he automatically loses with zero activity), then he can lunge at AJ...thus either making AJ exchange or hold.

    If Wilder doesn't get that sharp right-left combo to hurt Wilder, he should be able to win on points in an ugly and quite frankly, boring bout.
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    Wilder is going to KO Joshua. Been saying this for the past 6 months...

    A.J. knows it deep down too. Wilder will catch A.J. with that long right within 4-5 rounds and it will be the beginning of the end for the A.J. hype train.

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    • Madison Boxing
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      aj wins fairly easily. what people seem to be seriously overlooking is that wilder cant hold a shot and aj has got plenty of power. i dont know why its being turned into a boxer v puncher narrative. its a case of two punchers but one can box in addition to that and the other one cant.

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      • Amandlala
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        Originally posted by DramaShow
        aj wins fairly easily. what people seem to be seriously overlooking is that wilder cant hold a shot and aj has got plenty of power. i dont know why its being turned into a boxer v puncher narrative. its a case of two punchers but one can box in addition to that and the other one cant.
        It's Wilder's unorthodoxy that makes him the favourite for me though. When a pro like AJ has been facing orthodox fighters and that is what you are trained to defend against. Standard combinations like Jab, jab, cross etc.

        Then when you have an octopus hurling sledgehammers in the other corner. You can't rely on those same defensive fundamentals any more.

        I'm not a pro trainer but I look at Wlad, the longest reigning HW of this era, and I can see how a man can break his style down. And part of that formula is size. Which AJ has.

        I look at Wilder and all I can think is DAMN!

        This guy can knock em out like I haven't even seen.

        And that is the state of the HW division too.

        A KO artist with a crazy style has not met a boxer to match him. And he is the reigning WBC champ.

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        • Sparked_26
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          #5
          Good breakdown.

          But I do wonder if the strength disparity is big then AJ could try and walk him down.

          Fury beat Chisora in two ways. The first time he just walked him down fought in close and didn't allow Chisora room to get any leverage on the right hand.

          Neither has a great inside game but Joshua does to work in the there

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          • soul_survivor
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            #6
            Originally posted by DramaShow
            aj wins fairly easily. what people seem to be seriously overlooking is that wilder cant hold a shot and aj has got plenty of power. i dont know why its being turned into a boxer v puncher narrative. its a case of two punchers but one can box in addition to that and the other one cant.
            I certainly don't believe it's boxer v puncher. Aj is a better puncher than wilder and a better boxer, my point is aj has looked nervous throwing his big shots. Maybe wilder will bring the beats back in him.

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            • TouchyAndalou
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              #7
              Originally posted by PeasantCrusha
              Wilder is going to KO Joshua. Been saying this for the past 6 months...

              A.J. knows it deep down too. Wilder will catch A.J. with that long right within 4-5 rounds and it will be the beginning of the end for the A.J. hype train.
              It took 5 rounds for Wilder to catch Ortiz with anything and he still didn't finish him to, what was it, the 10th? He also almost got KO'ed himself in between those knockdowns.

              Both guys are flawed but dangerous fighters. Joshua probably has less flaws. I suspect Wilder will be cautious early against Joshua just like he was against Ortiz. The longer the fight goes the more he'll open up looking to land that right, and the more dangerous he'll be. But I have a feeling that Joshua will approach this fight differently than Parker and Takam and look to land heavily against Wilder early. If I had to predict, I could see this fighting looking like Lennox Lewis vs Michael Grant with Joshua blasting out Wilder with his straighter, more correct punches in the first few rounds. And I'm not saying Joshua is anywhere near the fighter Lewis was. He's a million miles off that. That's just a scenario I think this fight could resemble.

              Just to be clear, this is an analysis of the fight based on styles. I'm not a fan of either guy and don't I don't care who wins.

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              • Just looking
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                #8
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                So, all jokes and back and forth aside, let's have a break down of how this fight could go.

                AJ strengths -
                Good jab
                Power
                Good left hook
                Good footwork
                Strength
                Solid all round boxer

                Wilder strengths -
                Fast hands
                Good stamina
                Very good power

                AJ weaknesses -
                Poor inside game
                Looks to hold too often
                Chin?

                Wilder weaknesses -
                Chin?
                Non-existent inside ability
                Weak jab
                Lack of activity throughout
                Wild, uneducated combinations
                Relies too heavily on power
                Weak footwork, especially when running back from punches

                What could happen?
                AJ has the better, straighter punches and combinations, so if Ortiz can connect as often as he did, AJ will be able to do it more so and match Wilder for height and reach. The problem is, AJ's intention seems to have changed. He looked unwilling and uneasy with exchanges against Takam and again against Parker. After effects of Wlad?

                If Wilder can get through the early rounds (where he automatically loses with zero activity), then he can lunge at AJ...thus either making AJ exchange or hold.

                If Wilder doesn't get that sharp right-left combo to hurt Wilder, he should be able to win on points in an ugly and quite frankly, boring bout.
                You got everything mixed. Power, jab, footwork all go for Wilder. Expect Wilder tagging Joshua with his jab and then knocking him out in the first half

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Just looking
                  You got everything mixed. Power, jab, footwork all go for Wilder. Expect Wilder tagging Joshua with his jab and then knocking him out in the first half
                  Yeah, because Wilder was really lighting Ortiz up with his jab in the first half of their fight.

                  Oh wait. He wasn't even throwing it. Because he was terrified of getting countered (rightly so, because a single Ortiz counter almost got him KO'ed)

                  Try to give a reasoned, unbiased breakdown and we can respect your opinion. There's no reason to be so one-sided, Deontay's not your girlfriend (at least I don't think he is)

                  The same goes for all the Joshua bum-lickers.

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                  • Just looking
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TouchyAndalou
                    Yeah, because Wilder was really lighting Ortiz up with his jab in the first half of their fight.

                    Oh wait. He wasn't even throwing it. Because he was terrified of getting countered (rightly so, because a single Ortiz counter almost got him KO'ed)

                    Try to give a reasoned, unbiased breakdown and we can respect your opinion. There's no reason to be so one-sided, Deontay's not your girlfriend (at least I don't think he is)

                    The same goes for all the Joshua bum-lickers.
                    He throwed and landed a lot of jabs (actually oujabbed Ortiz) and he was against a skilled southpaw what makes it harder: https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-...-stats--125891
                    Get your facts straight before talking of reason

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