Comments Thread For: Canelo Could Take a Big Hit if NSAC Issues 1-Year Suspension

[billeau2]

Clenbuterol burns fat like no other drug.

Before - After:



It also has slight anabolic capacity.

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Thanks for the info... Its really confusing for me because we know Canelo has stamina issues, but why the risk for a reward that is minimal? It is possible he wanted the anarobic efficiency which become aerobic....But heres what I don't get.

Why in hell's bells would people want to put that to livestock? Lean meat taste like crap the leaner it gets. Ill never forget being in Zabar's the great appetizer store in New York for Eastern Euro *** food. I could die for some of that herring and sour cream...So this very pretty ***ish woman asks the old ***ish guy at the counter for "lean Nova Salmon", He makes this crazy exxagerated look and proceeds to explain to her that the fat is what makes the salmon taste good!

When you use lean meats for sausages for example, like Venison sausage you actually put pork fat in it. I don't get why they would give this to beef cattle in Mexico.

[The plunger man]

why suspend anyone for breaking the rules? WHY HAVE RULES ****KK EVERYTHING

Because its a sport and sport is all about fair play ....plus boxing people die and its dangerous when another fighter has extra help to beat yis opponent.....now shut the f u ck up and acccept whats right

[billeau2]

It can be the other side too, after all these years using peds and being tested dozens of times what failed this time?

And through it all his stamina has been sh11t. maybe he should put down the messican meat pies and do roadwork or research how fighters trained so they could fight 3 minute of each round back in the day...

I hate stuff that makes no damn sense... A drug given to cattle that makes them lean.... People who breed beef don't want to move ploughes they want well marbled steaks! A fighter taking a drug that does what for him?

[lopetego]

So if he's been eating Mexican beef at his mom's, friends and Mexican restaurants all his career as a boxer, wouldn't he have failed a few test by now? I mean, that would be more believable for him to test dirty for Clen. Now after all these supposed years eating Mexican beef, he finally test dirty twice?

Those clenbuterol traces were only detected because of the VADA extra testing, and he's only gone through those tests a few times during his career.

If Canelo had done the standard testing like he did against Liam Smith, for example, there wouldn't have been any problem

The extra testing is just a recent trend that started after Floyd's shenanigans to stall the Pacquiao match, nobody does extra testing aside from big name fighters, it costs money.

There are probably tons of clenbuterol-ridden mexican fighters at this point and they don't even know it

Marquez was wise to dodge VADA testing like the plague

[Vasyl’s dad]

I know he has said that but he should have a say in the upcoming NSAC deliberations with Canelo.
I know its pretty far out, and would probably never happen but i still think the opponent has some right to put down in writting for the inquest how he feels about whether he still would want to fight or not on may 5th.

So you’re ok with future fights having negotiations on which peds can be used?

[Travycat]

Thank you for shedding a little more light on that. The sheer plausibility that he's coming off a cycle is seeming more and more likely given developments. Numbers can be consistent with anything at the right time. But NSAC wouldn't have cancelled the hearing and filed a complaint had this been contamination. They've known the tests were positive since taken; under what pretenses was the question. If it does come out as 100% true that it was purposeful, does he take responsibility (I'd have some respect for him if he did) or will he continue the meat defense? Regardless, I just wanted to see the first fight. Both are such great fighters. But now the second slips further and further into obscurity. IF a 35 year old guy in many people's minds clearly won the first fight over a PED infused guy in his prime who was supposed to be the best, what's the point of having the second in a year or a year and a half? As a fight fan, I'm satisfied with the first fight, regardless of the Byrd decision.

Because he could have been coming off cycle. The meat story doesn't add up due to the half-life of the drug. He would've had to eaten tainted meat the day of the test because if he pissed hot the next day we need to factor those hours into the equation. It's like 28-36 hours before it's out of your system.

All the had to do was be like hey, those few days before the test we ate here, here, and here. Nope, nothing, zero, zilch.

via Gotcha Bítch

[BLASTER1]

So you’re ok with future fights having negotiations on which peds can be used?

No im not.
Im just saying that GGG should have the right to tell NSAC what he would want to happen in regards to his up coming fight with Canelo.

[lex_fugitive]

Do people realize this is Canelo and G? You don't think they could sell out a stadium in Mexico? Have it on ppv the same time. Only thing that changes is the place. Nevada's commission has no say on what Mexico does and/or allows. I'm just saying, if G really wanted to go through with the rematch, it wouldn't be that hard to do. Also, generally other states abide by the NSAC's rulings, but not they do not have to. Would New York or California turn down the millions that come with the fight, just because of the NSAC?

It sounds like Canelo will be suspended, probably for six months. And it sounds like G isn't willing to fight him elsewhere or wait until September. G has that right, it should be up to him. And it is, if he wants Canelo and the monster payday that comes with it on May 5th, I am sure that can be made to happen. I just don't think G wants to.

[lex_fugitive]

Those clenbuterol traces were only detected because of the VADA extra testing, and he's only gone through those tests a few times during his career.

If Canelo had done the standard testing like he did against Liam Smith, for example, there wouldn't have been any problem

The extra testing is just a recent trend that started after Floyd's shenanigans to stall the Pacquiao match, nobody does extra testing aside from big name fighters, it costs money.

There are probably tons of clenbuterol-ridden mexican fighters at this point and they don't even know it

Marquez was wise to dodge VADA testing like the plague

You do realize, other than the Smith fight, every single other fight since Mosley, Canelo has undergone VADA testing? You do realize he was the WBC champion, and enrolled in year round random blood and urine testing from VADA? I believe he has been tested at least 90 times.

I'm not saying Canelo isn't a cheat and that he hasn't been using them immediately after fights before signing the next fight. However, the facts speak for themselves, he just failed two tests. There is no need to lie and make up other crap. Canelo has undergone real testing for most of his fights, but not for long enough time periods for it not be possible to use peds. Since he vacated his WBC mw belt anyways. Which, literally, the fight before Smith was Khan and that was for the WBC so he was under year round random testing until after Khan. And he had the same testing for JCC Jr. and G number 1 has he did for this fight, his fights with Lara, Mayweather, Mosley, and others. He is most likely still a cheat, but there is no need to lie.

[lex_fugitive]

So you’re ok with future fights having negotiations on which peds can be used?

I'm not ok with language like that being used. I would be fine with fighters agreeing to not do any ped testing at all. Which, honestly, if it isn't for the WBC and the boxers do not agree and pay VADA to perform testing leading up to the fight, then that is pretty much the deal now. Sure, you can't use any peds, but when you are tested by pee, what once before the fight and once after the fight, there are plenty of peds to take. I'd be fine with saying all peds are ok and not just the ones that can be used and cycled to test clean in a urine sample. I mean, honestly, it would be negotiating to do away with two scheduled urine tests. Which if you think those two tests are enough to prevent cheating, well...

Right now fighters have to negotiate for adequate ped testing. If they do not negotiate it and pay for it, then the normal two pee tests is all that is done. That isn't saying no peds are allowed. Its saying certain ones are allowed and most others are ok, if you know how to cycle them.