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  • #61
    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
    Im not talking about Wilder .

    The other poster said Whyte doesn't use body shots .Its false ,its his BEST punch .

    Everything he listed is basically false so its a waste of time to discuss further . lol


    Wilder basically relies on the straight right thats it . He doesn't have much else , his jab output is below average , he has no power hooks , hes not a combination puncher , doesn't get leverage punches on the inside like upper cuts unless hes forced or opposition hurt , decent body attack but hes not a close range fighter, and his footwork is rigid ,its really his best thing bc at 6'7 hes not so easy to reach when hes positioning out of range with those long arms but thats hardly skill.


    Wilder is showing that with bigger athletic guys ,Washington whos NOT top 10 and Ortiz fights aren't going so easy . You dont fall behind by round 5 in easy fights , im not sure ppl understand that .

    Whyte IS a top 10 guy ,to big up Wilders opposition but discard him is laughable !
    Got ya. I do not disagree with anything you said. But what I have seen is flashes of what a fighter like Wilder could be if he was even just a hair more focused. He has such quick hands and natural power he could be the rare type of fighter who could KO someone with body punches or jabs alone. He could be so much better in close with just a fraction of better head movement, which added in with his reach advantage would make him so much more versatile. It seems so strange to think how much better Wilder could be, even as he has KO'd everyone. I think foot movement and balance are things he plain doesn't have naturally and seem to be actual disadvantages, so to not improve on the things he could do better is just a waste of talent. I mean, come on- improving his fraking stance in the ring would mean taking less punishment. He is a wide open so much.

    I think Whyte is strictly B level. He could beat anyone on their off days, but really can't dictate anything in the ring. Chisora was hitting him clean. Wilder could end him as is. But Joshua is a solid boxer and technically sound with good balance and great power, which is why all things being equal I would not pick Wilder to beat him.

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    • #62
      Wilder puts Dilian to sleep in the same fashion he put Browne to sleep.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by landotter View Post
        Got ya. I do not disagree with anything you said. But what I have seen is flashes of what a fighter like Wilder could be if he was even just a hair more focused. He has such quick hands and natural power he could be the rare type of fighter who could KO someone with body punches or jabs alone. He could be so much better in close with just a fraction of better head movement, which added in with his reach advantage would make him so much more versatile. It seems so strange to think how much better Wilder could be, even as he has KO'd everyone. I think foot movement and balance are things he plain doesn't have naturally and seem to be actual disadvantages, so to not improve on the things he could do better is just a waste of talent. I mean, come on- improving his fraking stance in the ring would mean taking less punishment. He is a wide open so much.

        I think Whyte is strictly B level. He could beat anyone on their off days, but really can't dictate anything in the ring. Chisora was hitting him clean. Wilder could end him as is. But Joshua is a solid boxer and technically sound with good balance and great power, which is why all things being equal I would not pick Wilder to beat him.
        "But what I have seen is flashes of what a fighter like Wilder could be if he was even just a hair more focused. He has such quick hands and natural power he could be the rare type of fighter who could KO someone with body punches or jabs alone. "


        He shouldn't be at 40 fights and be a COULD fighter .



        Whyte is a tricky fighter , rankings mean little most of the time . MOST fans would have laughed and did when i said Whyte is a top fighter in 2015 after he was knocked out by Joshua . I didnt think he was good until AFTER that loss and thats when everyone else looked at him as just a body . Thats bc the average fan doesnt look at skills they go off of oddball view points .

        Whyte is ranked in every sanctioning body now , ring magazine has him at 3 ( i dont even have him there ) .

        Wilder isnt a pressure fighter , the style he brings to Whyte will have no meaning on a last year Chisora fight .

        Theres alot of B level fighters . Of course bc the division is young and like any era the A level fighters limited but will grow .

        Whos exactly the A level fighters ? Joshua , Wilder , Ortiz , Povetkin ( for now ) ! Thats who .

        Wilders attributes make him a top CURRENT fighter . His speed is the only reason hes a champion now and it comes with power , hes extremely limited by his skills but dangerous bc of he can think and is very good at seeing openings .


        The rest arent in their primes ( peak ) yet . Most in top 10 LIKE Whyte have about 2 years to hit that . You have to stop using double standards in comparing other eras ,and when you do that you'll see how stacked this division is and will be huge in 2020 .
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-26-2018, 02:53 AM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
          I think you meant, "Whyte looks ponderous,......" - I totally agree with your entire assessment. Can't fault Whyte for the smack talking though, he's gotta do what he's gotta do to create a buzz for the fight......
          Whyte looks ponderous yeah, that's maybe because he's close to a clear and cut 260 lbs.

          Dude is built like a linebacker, he's better than any opponent Wilder faced except Ortiz, yet he's not as inactive and old as Ortiz was.

          Wilder could make a point beating up Whyte if he does it better than AJ and add even more pressure and hype to a AJ vs DW fight.

          At the end of the day Wilder is the B side. That's not fair but that's how 2K18 boxing works bro.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            "Body punches - Whyte, Wilder hardly goes to the body"

            This right here tells me you arent doing video study .


            No need to discuss further .
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            Im not talking about Wilder .

            The other poster said Whyte doesn't use body shots .Its false ,its his BEST punch .

            Everything he listed is basically false so its a waste of time to discuss further . lol


            Wilder basically relies on the straight right thats it . He doesn't have much else , his jab output is below average , he has no power hooks , hes not a combination puncher , doesn't get leverage punches on the inside like upper cuts unless hes forced or opposition hurt , decent body attack but hes not a close range fighter, and his footwork is rigid ,its really his best thing bc at 6'7 hes not so easy to reach when hes positioning out of range with those long arms but thats hardly skill.


            Wilder is showing that with bigger athletic guys ,Washington whos NOT top 10 and Ortiz fights aren't going so easy . You dont fall behind by round 5 in easy fights , im not sure ppl understand that .

            Whyte IS a top 10 guy ,to big up Wilders opposition but discard him is laughable !
            Wrong punctuation.. a "." Instead of a "," should have helped you understand..
            body punches is more of Whyte's best shot I agree..

            That said you can rely on your analysis and I'll rely on mine.. When they do fight and Whyte goes to sleep, we'll discuss on where your analysis went wrong..

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            • #66
              Wilder should face his demons and face Whyte. Stop ducking

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