WADA Accredited, Dr. BOER - Gives Opinion on CANELO Case

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  • spartanpower
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    #11
    Originally posted by G G G
    Did Oscar pay him like he paid those photo analysts to say the fishnet pics were fake?! LMFAO gtfo Crackboy and Clenelo.
    Conte said the problem wasn't Clenbuterol....he said what were GGG and Canelo doing 4 months before the fight, mocking VADA and the WBC's CBP 365 program as Gennady is required to do testing as a Champ. Why would Conte assume or cause damange to VADA on testing?

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    • stealthradon
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      #12
      "Het is wel lastig een exact getal eraan te koppelen. Het voorstel dat ik heb gedaan is 200 picogram per milliliter urine"

      Here he is again with this.


      Canelo was 3 times over this.

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      • stealthradon
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        #13
        And here is the full video:

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        • spartanpower
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          #14
          Originally posted by stealthradon
          "Het is wel lastig een exact getal eraan te koppelen. Het voorstel dat ik heb gedaan is 200 picogram per milliliter urine"


          Canelo was 3 times over this.
          Canelo's fight was on Feb. 17th? Comparing cycling event testing, the day of events, versus out of camp... yeah..

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          • spartanpower
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            #15
            Originally posted by stealthradon
            And here is the full video:
            Context:

            Contador: Tested 6 times on the days of racing...

            Canelo: Tested 80 days out...

            Verdict: Dr. Boer says the benefits and scenarios are completely different.

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            • stealthradon
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              #16
              "Dr. Douwe de Boer is a Dutch biochemist. He is known for assisting the defense teams of different athletes who were found positive for clenbuterol. All athletes which he assisted were found positive on miniscule amounts of clenbuterol. He has assisted Van Houts, Fuyu Li and Contador."

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                #17
                Originally posted by stealthradon
                "Dr. Douwe de Boer is a Dutch biochemist. He is known for assisting the defense teams of different athletes who were found positive for clenbuterol. All athletes which he assisted were found positive on miniscule amounts of clenbuterol. He has assisted Van Houts, Fuyu Li and Contador."
                He also consulted the Povetkin cases!

                Yall getting skurrred!

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                • BattlingNelson
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  If thats correct why is it even on the banned substance list in the first place?

                  This is the type of logic that I think proves the banned substance list needs to be reconsidered & restructured from the ground up.
                  Because that doctor knows fck all about clenbuterol.

                  “Clenbuterol is a very potent and effective performance-enhancing drug that would certainly help a boxer,” said Conte to the Las Vegas Review Journal

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    Because that doctor knows fck all about clenbuterol.
                    lol. He was Director at the Lisbon WADA lab. He knows what he's talking about.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by spartanpower
                      ''...In the specific case of Saul Canelo Alvarez (Mexico/ clenbuterol/ trace amounts), it is highly unlikely that he had any benefits based on the data and facts presented. Also, with the multiple facts (Mexico/ clenbuterol/ trace amounts) just 2 weeks before a fight, one can also claim using the same arguments that having any benefits are very unlikely.

                      With only two facts (clenbuterol/ trace amounts) the discussion becomes more uncertain. I do not know how many days a preparation for a fight in professional boxing normally is, but I can imagine that it might take more than 100 days. In that case and in theory one can have beneficial effects from clenbuterol in the beginning of that 100 days period or depending when you take it, even have benefits at the end of that period. Therefore, one can use the same arguments for any scenario and depending which scenario you favor, one can use selectively certain opinions. However, I want to underline that for me even two weeks before a fight, that with trace amounts a scenario with any beneficial effect is not likely, also because the benefits of clenbuterol are overestimated.''

                      You are a liar. The doctor is talking about Contador, not Canelo.

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