Comments Thread For: Liam Smith: Canelo Ruined Legacy, Look How His Body Changed!

[nacho daddy]

Ah... I am sure you have inside knowledge you are not sharing of the evidence of the Hall of Fame fighter sneaking around in trench coats, buying the good stuff and throwing the HGH parties. No? No links? No photos? No evidence? But Holyfield worked himself into a HW, and accusing him blindly backs up everyone's claim... somehow... that Alvarez is cheating. Besides, you posted it so it must be true.

Sometimes, it physically hurts to read some of these posts.

Anyone besides me need a beer?

yes you are right holyfield just took flinstone vitamins

[nacho daddy]

Totally, completely, 100% true. But please remember that testing for the Olympics and the Tour de France were absolutely a joke at the time. No real attempt was made to catch them, and those tested (rarely and randomly) were notified well in advance and had ample time to get clean.

These incidents, and those in baseball and football, have resulted in the testing we are seeing becoming more strigent. Could an elite athlete like Alvarez have been avoiding them as he is cheating? Freaking yes. Even as I basically defend Alvarez, do I believe the tainted beef? I find it hard. But I also believe in facts and past patterns. Right now, the facts do not 100% condemn him, and there are unusual circumstances. So, I lean to believing him.

With that, I am done. He is clean, or he will be revealed to be a cheat. If nothing else comes out, I will assume he ate a bad slab of rare beef and cheer for Trip G to light him up in May because I like Golovkin better.

what is totally untrue is your abundance of ******ity. are you telling me lance Armstrong was not the most tested guy around? they would sneak into his garbage cans to try to find something

[landotter]

what is totally untrue is your abundance of ******ity. are you telling me lance Armstrong was not the most tested guy around? they would sneak into his garbage cans to try to find something

Again, LOVE insults on forums. Just mature, high class, and shows your extreme knowledge is the basis of all your arguments.

Not really a bike race forum, nor do I really care to stroll down memory lane of only the most well known fall from grace due to doping outside of Baseball and is only the most well documented thing this side of Watergate. Yes, I am saying exactly that: Lance Armstrong got away with what he did for the same reason the entire French Tour De Force team did, the exact reasons all the Olympic athletes did, and why Baseball athletes did. Testing was a joke until it wasn't. It was easy to circumvent until it wasn't. When they even did a couple of basic tests honestly as the truth came out about widespread cheating, the dam broke and people were revealed.

Have a blessed day, Nacho Daddy. I am in awe of your intelligence, calm demeanor, and experienced debating style.

[nacho daddy]

Again, LOVE insults on forums. Just mature, high class, and shows your extreme knowledge is the basis of all your arguments.

Not really a bike race forum, nor do I really care to stroll down memory lane of only the most well known fall from grace due to doping outside of Baseball and is only the most well documented thing this side of Watergate. Yes, I am saying exactly that: Lance Armstrong got away with what he did for the same reason the entire French Tour De Force team did, the exact reasons all the Olympic athletes did, and why Baseball athletes did. Testing was a joke until it wasn't. It was easy to circumvent until it wasn't. When they even did a couple of basic tests honestly as the truth came out about widespread cheating, the dam broke and people were revealed.

Have a blessed day, Nacho Daddy. I am in awe of your intelligence, calm demeanor, and experienced debating style.

testing is a joke in boxing NFL,NBA etc to say it is a joke in a couple of sports and not the others is just ******. I am glad you have knelt before your master :boobies:

[Reverb]

you really need evidence for AJ? that mofo has biceps in his teeth.

Evidence beats assumption every time. The eye test has been proven flawed time and time again.

[Mindgames]

Again, someone brings something up I had not even considered. This WILL push the pay-per-view interest up.

Real quick on one of your earlier points, the idea that Alvarez would not go out on the town and eat beef at a restaurant, or go to a friends house and eat a steak cooked for him that is tainted because he lives on some isolated mansion on a mountain or something is itself unfair. If this tainted beef (I can hardly wait for that never to be spoken of again) in Mexico is widespread, he could easily have consumed enough in social settings to hit the trace amounts. He is not royalty, he is a boxer.

I know a few high level MMA guys and they don't eat cheap. They have organic food, real good quality meat and a nutritionist working for them. Also, I expect Canelo goes to good quality restaurants that serve good quality meat, but I'll grant you it's not impossible that as you say you might eat something in a social setting that puts you over the top. But then linked with the fact that this info about the meat was out there, and the fact that he has some pretty obvious traps on him(always the first to look abit unusual when your cheating) is say its more likely he's on something. But I'm not putting him with Jon Jones and Anderson Silva right now. They had pretty interesting excuses though and I think the public are bound to feel a bit of fatigue around the area of PED cheats and there's claims of innocence via ignorance.

[sayf]

lance Armstrong the most tested guy in history beat the tests for 15 years until he couldn't make them money any more

Very true, but I imagine detection techniques have gotten better over time. Obviously the converse is also likely to be true as I'm sure there's a lot of money in PED masking techniques.

[The plunger man]

lmao wish I had seen that

bigdunny is too smart for the casuals

so..... you have convicted Canelo, based on the fact that he is not running around frantically trying to clear his name..... for a positive test that he claims was accidental

funny shht

back when Pac was doing his thing..... under a cloud of su****ion..... just like Freddie Roach admitted would happen when Manny publicly refused random blood tests..... there was a very simple way for Manny to clear his name..... he could have simply taken a harmless blood test..... but, nope

where were you then ?

your so pigheaded and Ignorant gumbo you still try and defend a cheater.....you have no code or morals when it comes to how an athlete should behave.....your even lower than i imagined you to be now

[The plunger man]

Basically canelo never had the power to be a true middleweight and has in the last few transformed his body with steroids so he could perform on an even keel with natural middlweights.....got leaner with more muscle yet gained wet and power.....do the maths

[aboutfkntime]

Basically canelo never had the power to be a true middleweight and has in the last few transformed his body with steroids so he could perform on an even keel with natural middlweights.....got leaner with more muscle yet gained wet and power.....do the maths

or..... you are TOTALLY full of shht, and Canelo ate tainted meat

it will be one of those two things lol



the tards, when Canelo weighed 155:
" he is a middleweight "

the tards, when Canelo moved to 160:
" he is not a middleweight, and needed to use steroids "



why did B1tchkin refuse to fight him at 155 again ?