Who hits harder, George Foreman or Deontay Wilder?

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  • Cutthroat
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    #71
    Originally posted by Sheldon312
    Let's be honest here. Would you favor Wilder to beat a guy like Frazier ( who is head and shoulders above Ortiz)
    Frazier would get annihilated, when Frazier fought a super heavy like Foreman we saw what happened. Bugner was another guy that was considered "big" in his era at 6'4 220 and pushed Frazier to his limit.

    35 year old 6'0 197lb Gregario Peralta, not even a full fledged HW, was able to eat and avoid a lot of young Foreman's shots while landing his own. Foreman even looked a bit hurt at times.




    Peralta couldn't even hold Ortiz's jock strap either. Just how many excuses can be made?
    Last edited by Cutthroat; 04-04-2018, 03:48 PM.

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    • Cutthroat
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      #72
      Originally posted by sbbigmike
      208 pound Evan Fields was roided you know this......
      There are a lot of roided guys. Gregario Peralta, who NOBODY remembers because he doesn't fit an agenda, was 6'0 197lbs and was eating a lot of Foreman punches while landing a lot himself, fight went 10 rounds to a decision.

      I ask you, what modern day HW would not get laughed at for even going 5 with a guy that size let alone 10?

      Wilder gets lambasted for even going 5 rounds with 6'6 240lb Gerald Washington
      Last edited by Cutthroat; 04-04-2018, 03:49 PM.

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      • hugh grant
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        #73
        Antho y Joshua hits harder than wilder

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          #74
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Wilders height gives him a significant advantage punching down as well bc of his speed . Its more velocity behind some of those K.O s .

          His best one was Szpilka but he ran into the punch. Jennings also stopped Szpilka in less time and hes not a hard puncher at least hasnt shown to be .


          Obviously Wilder has the zap power but it takes him more punches on average to down someone , he didnt down Duhaupas who was used like a heavy bag but we question Joshua now bc he DIDNT land any actual power flush punch on Parker ? lol


          These Wilder fanatics are ridiculous not in the way of their opinion but how they go about it , They hype him up to extreme agendas that they claim Stivernes right hand is the best next to Wilders and Wilder is more skilled than Bowe AND Ali ?
          ... And to add insult to injury, if we are Joshua and his team do we: "hey Josh better knock this guy out so all the haters don't get upset...take the risks" or do we see him working the rounds, being in his hometown, not needing to take unnecessary risks to win these rounds easily? which is what he said and what makes sense.

          Even a very strong puncher does not take ****** risks and a lot of casuals don't seem to get that.

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          • LacedUp
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            #75
            Originally posted by HeadShots
            Deontay by a mile. you can't even name someone Foreman KOed with 1 punch until u get to a LHW Moorer and much later in his career when he was roided out of his mind.


            Deontay not only hits harder. he's also more skilled and faster. Foreman had 2 left feet and couldn't throw a straight punch to save his life.
            mmmh.... that's not true

            Foreman knocked out plenty of guys flat dead. Just because you only saw 3 Foreman fights in your life.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Cutthroat
              Henry Cooper, 188lbs, practically KO'd Ali. I think people are thrown off by Ali's win over Foreman, the conditions in Rumble in the Jungle were PERFECT for an upset.

              Foreman was barely training that fight, Ali had the African crowd chanting "Ali Kill him!", had Foreman completely shook. That fight took place outside in 100 degree weather with 90% humidity. Ali used all of it to his advantage letting Foreman literally tire himself out with his "rope a dope", if the conditions weren't what they were, history would've seen Foreman with a KO or wide UD.
              lol wtf are you smoking

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              • juggernaut666
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                #77
                Originally posted by billeau2
                ... And to add insult to injury, if we are Joshua and his team do we: "hey Josh better knock this guy out so all the haters don't get upset...take the risks" or do we see him working the rounds, being in his hometown, not needing to take unnecessary risks to win these rounds easily? which is what he said and what makes sense.

                Even a very strong puncher does not take ****** risks and a lot of casuals don't seem to get that.
                Joshua did land ONE short left hook that backed Parker up but a follow up cut short by the ref who actually did Parker favors preventing inside fighting .

                The truth is Parker was feeling Joshuas power just blocking his shots in round one , a very crafty fighter could sense what a damaging punch is going to do if it connects . So he abandoned his " Im going to meet you head on " statement he made and fought to survive which against Joshua isnt easy to do so Parker showed hes a bit better than other fights have shown . ( I would still pick a Joshua K.O in a rematch )


                The thread itself is full of double standards . I should make a thread of top power punchers throughout history and show all the 10/12 round UD wins there are . Its like ppl just started watching boxing on here half the time .lol
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-04-2018, 04:58 PM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Ron Lyle is a more proven puncher than Shavers just on the Foreman fight , some of these standards are ridiculous really . Giving certain lables bc fighter A has a better K.O % than fighter B . lol
                  yeah, it's from looking at his KO%, not from watching him throw that bomb of his, looking like he murdered Larry Holmes. KO'd Ron Lyle, first round stoppage of Bugner, KO'd Ellis, and almost dropped Ali.

                  Actually, You seem to be the only person that discredits Shavers punching ability. Maybe you should google his name and you'll see a list of boxers saying he was the hardest puncher they've faced.
                  Last edited by _Rexy_; 04-04-2018, 05:21 PM.

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                  • Ben Bolt
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    According to idiots on here, Butterbean probably hits harder...
                    Every new generation pick their fighters to be the best.
                    Here on "Non-stop boxing" it seems Wilder has the upper hand.

                    But put this question in the "Boxing History"-section and Foreman will win by a mile.

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                    • Cutthroat
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      lol wtf are you smoking
                      Foreman thought the fight would be over in 3-4 rounds max, he underestimated Ali. I'm not even sure the type of road work he did, he did most of his training in isolation, on the other hand Ali was free to run the streets after getting the African crowd on his side.

                      Foreman fought a whopping 9 rounds in his last 5 fights, Ali 60.
                      You're not going to be conditioned properly fighting so few rounds.

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