Comments Thread For: Golovkin: This is Not a Meat Problem, It's a Team Canelo Problem

[Motorcity Cobra]

Athletes in every other sport are told to watch what they put in their body. The meat excuse would not be acceptable in any other sport. I don't care if it was the meat. This is about being a responsible, professional athlete. Only in boxing is this accepted. As the #1 name in boxing, Canelo is supposed to set the standard.

[robbyheartbaby]

Hes not Mr.97k anymore, hes Mr 1.3 mil now. His ppv with canelo was a massive success and canelo should thank him for that.

Wow people are still pulling out the Mr. 97k thing? Lol get with the times right? GGG is a PPV star now.

[TonyGe]

I like Golovking but he cant cry and then accept the fight.

So lets yo Golovkin, stop crying and cancel the fight.

Since then was he crying. He was asked what he thought and he gave an honest answer.
Canelo testing positive for Peds is bad for boxing.
Canelo testing positive is bad for Canelo's image.
Canelo testing positive is the fault of Canelo and his team.
Canelo is a good boxer and doesn't need Peds to be at a high level.
These are all common sense responses. So where is the crying..

[bigdunny1]

Yes, Wilder vs Povetkin was postponed, pending an investigation, and the investigation ended with Povetkin being found guilty and sanctioned.

If those facts alone arn't enough for you to understand that the situation with GGG and Canelo is totally different, then there isn't much point me carrying on this convo with you.

Over and out.

yes it's different because long before they decided he was guilty and reviewed it Wilder pulled out the fight and GGG refuses to pull out. Whatever the investigation determined was a mute point because Wilder wasn't fighting. GGG could take the same stance and if Canelo is cleared the fight would be postponed but he doesn't want to risk losing his payday in May.

[bigdunny1]

Athletes in every other sport are told to watch what they put in their body. The meat excuse would not be acceptable in any other sport. I don't care if it was the meat. This is about being a responsible, professional athlete. Only in boxing is this accepted. As the #1 name in boxing, Canelo is supposed to set the standard.

It's been accepted in the NFL and other sports

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...golovkin-fight

In 2016, former Houston Texans left tackle Duane Brown tested positive for clenbuterol. Brown, who now plays for the Seattle Seahawks, was not disciplined, and the drug program's independent administrator sent a letter warning players that consumption of too much meat in Mexico and China could cause a positive test

[kafkod]

I really wish GGG would either pull outta the fight or STFU.

I wish you would STFU with your ******ed comments.

[Motorcity Cobra]

It's been accepted in the NFL and other sports

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...golovkin-fight

In 2016, former Houston Texans left tackle Duane Brown tested positive for clenbuterol. Brown, who now plays for the Seattle Seahawks, was not disciplined, and the drug program's independent administrator sent a letter warning players that consumption of too much meat in Mexico and China could cause a positive test

Yep. And after that warning those excuses weren't accepted anymore. Brown had no idea, he was there visiting. Canelo knew. That's what I mean when I say responsible.

[kafkod]

Since then was he crying. He was asked what he thought and he gave an honest answer.
Canelo testing positive for Peds is bad for boxing.
Canelo testing positive is bad for Canelo's image.
Canelo testing positive is the fault of Canelo and his team.
Canelo is a good boxer and doesn't need Peds to be at a high level.
These are all common sense responses. So where is the crying..

All over this thread from ******s like him and the one I just responded to.

[bigdunny1]

Yep. And after that warning those excuses weren't accepted anymore. Brown had no idea, he was there visiting. Canelo knew. That's what I mean when I say responsible.

No there just hasn't been another case since. No clue what the NFL would do if another player tested positive after visiting Mexico. Point is this isn't about boxing, examples of soccer players, NFL players ect all not being punished for eating in mexico and having traces of this in their system. Can't even make the case this only applies to a big supsterstar like Canelo because just a little over a year ago same thing happened with Francisco Vargas and not only was the fight not called off he wasn't punished. VADA, WADA, USADA all major test agencies currently treat these cases differently for folks from Mexico and China differently because of the meat issue in those countries.


"we maintain that disciplinary proceedings against athletes with low level urinary concentrations, from countries known for significant risk of exposure, would have little to no prospect of success; and, would be very unfair to the athletes concerned.”

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/ne...rd-documentary

Also from the link.

"All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases."


http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...golovkin-fight

Canelo's results were between 0.6-0.8ng and 0.06-0.08ng. Directly posted on ESPN article the letter from VADA stating the levels canelo had in his system clearly lower. Mexico is on their list of countries where this substance is higher risk and he's within range for meat contamination. So unless WADA, VADA, USADA change their stance why would the NFL, Boxing ect not take their guidance under consideration.

As for being more responsible sure but we have to wait to hear all the details. But precedence already exists in boxing and other sports for him to not be punished. My point is it's bigger then boxing the testing agencies don't know what to do with this shyt because it's pumped in the food in a couple countries.

[stealthradon]

Assuming a consumption of 300 g of contaminated meat (muscle), these amounts would result
in an intake of 1.3–1.9 mg of clenbuterol, which is approx. one-tenth of a typical the****utic single dose of 20 mg used in man. Based on this data, maximum urinary concentrations are supposed to range between 100 and 150 pg/ml. However, the misuse of clenbuterol for livestock is not controlled and applied doses are expected to be much higher, as demonstrated by the large number of clenbuterol poisonings.[5–7] The results obtained within the present study with maximum concentrations of 50.5 pg/ml are
difficult to compare, since the amount of clenbuterol ingested was unknown.

The highest recorded in a study done in China was 50.5 pg/ml
1/1000th of Clenelo.

http://10ste93kec2i6oi6nlhmxd19.wpen...university.pdf