Comments Thread For: Report: Lomachenko-Linares Fight Finalized for May 12 at MSG

[JakeTheBoxer]

I don`t wanna hear excuses when Loma stops man from higher division.

[jjsmyth87]

I think this year is on course to be the best Boxing year since 2008.

Usyk-Briedis
Gassiev-Dorticos
Rungvisai-Estrada
Wilder-Ortiz
Valdez-Quigg

All delivered excellent back and forth fights in a short time span and now we've got a good show Saturday, Joshua-Parker, Hurd-Lara, GGG-Canelo II, Usyk-Gassiev Lomachenko-Linares, Smith-Groves all signed, sealed and delivered. They can produce some duds and it's still all good and that's before even June has hit.

I just realized GGG-Canelo II, Usyk-Gassiev and Lomachenko-Linares is all in the space of 7 days. I can't name a better week in recent history

Your forgetting Beltran Moses, that was actually a really good back and forth scrap. Moses did much better than expected.

Anyways this is a great fight im really glad Arum abd OdLH came together on this one. They havent co promoted a fight since Vargas Ali. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come. If they can make this fight there should be no reason they cant make Pacquiao Mathysse. Arum should just bite the bullet and make that fight with Crawford and Horn as a co headline and push it back a little and put it on Ppv. Either way this is a great fight and im picking Loma by no mas in the late rounds

[Vlad_]

Loma would then be known as the ducker who moved up to 135lbs to fight a bum and duck the real 130 threat in Davis...

so after loma schools linares, will there be any argue about him being number 1?

Probably, but not from me.

[Bronx2245]

They won their first title the same year. Terence turned pro in 2008 and it took him 6 years to finally challenge for a belt! That's another way to look at it. Terence doesn't have more longevity of fighting top fighters since they started fighting top opposition around the same time and TC had the advantage since he turned pro 5 years before Loma.

Lineal titles don't exist. It's a mythical belt or show me proof of someone holding a lineal belt. People can't even make up their minds on what exactly the belt is and how someone wins it. They just basically give it out to their favorite fighters. Some say it's the Ring belt, others say it's based on this ranking or that ranking, etc.
Crawford had to beat Burns, Gamboa, and Beltran to get that crap. That's all you have to do? Answer: No, because I've seen fighters beat much better opposition in their weight class and somehow are not considered the lineal champion.
By the way, Beltran is the same guy that is considered a cherry pick for Loma, but it was such a great next level win for Crawford that got him FOTY for 2014.
Linares is better than anyone Crawford fought at Lightweight. This would be Loma's first fight at Lightweight. Is he going to be considered lineal for beating someone better than what Crawford had to do at Lightweight? It's not like Terence had a long run as a lightweight champion either. He only defended his title 2 times. There are other fighters that have done more in their weight classes, yet NEVER became lineal champions, so what exactly is the criteria?

Gamboa is probably still Crawford's best win and in most people's opinion he lost to Jason Sosa, who isn't even a top 3 win for Loma.
If you don't give Loma any credit for Rigo, then you can't give Crawford credit for Gamboa; since the size difference was even bigger in that fight, yet people praise Crawford for that win. I'm not saying you have to praise Loma for that Rigo win, but keep it fair, you also can't praise Terence for that Gamboa win.

If undefeated records mean so much then you can't give fighters credit for beating fighters that already have defeats.
So, Klitschko is the GOAT, because he beat around 15 or so undefeated fighters, but AJ will soon be the GOAT because he has already defeated about 6 undefeated fighters in 20 fights. Already more undefeated fighters than Crawford. Loma only has 11 fights, so he can still match him.

You just wrote, "Loma only has 11 fights, so he can still match him," which means he hasn't matched him yet, so why is he ranked above TC already? Crawford beat Beltran in 2014. Are you comparing 2018 Beltran to 2014 Beltran? TC stopped undefeated Gamboa in 2014! Gamboa fought Sosa in 2017. Are you comparing 2017 Gamboa to 2014 Gamboa? You know Gamboa beat Salido in 2010. You know who Salido is right? Lomachenko is a great talent, probably the best I've seen since Mayweather Jr.! That being said, even Floyd wasn't ranked #1 P4P until 2005!

[Jubei]

Thank you Bob Arum

[killakali]

Those kinda guys dont comprehend logic amigo

Yeah man every promoter does it when they can

[Bronx2245]

Lomachenko has a better resume than both crawford and mikey. They just have more fights.

Even though Mikey has titles in 4 weight divisions? Even though Crawford was champ @ 135 and unified the titles @ 140? Even though Loma is 10-1? An MD to GRJ, and a loss to Salido? Mikey beat Salido, a much younger version of Salido too. Mikey and Crawford sustained superior performance. Loma is just beginning! At least let him get to 20-1 before we crown him "The King!" Honestly, I'm more impressed with Spence Jr.'s performances vs. Brook and Peterson, than anything Loma has done yet! Loma's is a BAD MAN, but it's way too early!

[daggum]

Even though Mikey has titles in 4 weight divisions? Even though Crawford was champ @ 135 and unified the titles @ 140? Even though Loma is 10-1? An MD to GRJ, and a loss to Salido? Mikey beat Salido, a much younger version of Salido too. Mikey and Crawford sustained superior performance. Loma is just beginning! At least let him get to 20-1 before we crown him "The King!" Honestly, I'm more impressed with Spence Jr.'s performances vs. Brook and Peterson, than anything Loma has done yet! Loma's is a BAD MAN, but it's way too early!

much younger? loma fought him the next year. also look what he has done since...mikeys 4 belts but against who? if loma wins hes going to have elite wins in 3 classes. no lipinets here

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I only read half of the comments and I'll admit I'm a casual, but these real boxing fans don't know ****?

Like the guy who said Loma is avoiding Tank? Lmfao. I'm a Loma fan and I think he's got the potential to be the best, but he needs the fights to prove it.

Loma literally has nothing to prove or gain from fighting at 130. Unify titles? Why? No one else unified titles before moving up. Why should he? False expectations they hold no one to except him.

None of the champions at 130 would add anything to his resume. Even fighting Linares doesn't prove anything. He might be getting this titled handed to him but on the flip side, has anyone even listened to what Mikey Garcia said?

The guy wants to give Loma no shot because he called out Loma years ago and Loma didn't take or some ****. Then he said he wants to move down to 135 and unify titles. The guy is gonna get ****ed up. Duck Loma and get creamed by the 140 champs, or get creamed by loma? The dude might as well go retire again.

He needs that fight at 135 and Mikey has been quoted saying just that.

Seriously the hate is steong.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

You just wrote, "Loma only has 11 fights, so he can still match him," which means he hasn't matched him yet, so why is he ranked above TC already? Crawford beat Beltran in 2014. Are you comparing 2018 Beltran to 2014 Beltran? TC stopped undefeated Gamboa in 2014! Gamboa fought Sosa in 2017. Are you comparing 2017 Gamboa to 2014 Gamboa? You know Gamboa beat Salido in 2010. You know who Salido is right? Lomachenko is a great talent, probably the best I've seen since Mayweather Jr.! That being said, even Floyd wasn't ranked #1 P4P until 2005!

Can you not read? I was playing round saying that Loma still has plenty of fights to match ANTHONY JOSHUA, not TC, in how many undefeated fighters he has defeated by a certain amount of fights/time. AJ has 20 fights and Loma has 11. TC already has 32, so he can't do it anymore.
Anyways, you missed the point.

2018 Beltran is World Champion, was 2014 Beltran World Champion? Beltran wasn't a great fighter in 2014 either, so let's not make it out to be a great win back then. He is a decent fighter. Nothing more, nothing less.
2014 Gamboa was coming off a year lay off. I'm just going by other people's standards of activity. If an 11 month lay off is bad, Walters, then a year layoff has to be worse. Not exactly Gamboa's best moment in his career was it? Gamboa fought once in 2013 and didn't look amazing. He fought once in 2012 and didn't look great either.

I'm not even arguing P4P here. P4P is subjective. It's also imaginary. I just don't like how people say Loma's resume is "lacking," but then big up Crawford's.
Loma will seperate himself soon. Crawford isn't getting Danny Garcia, Shawn Porter, or Keith Thurman before Errol Spence.
Loma has more options at 135 and 140.