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  • steeve steel
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    #11
    Clem was used in cycling... Need we say more?

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    • PhillyshellDef
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      #12
      Originally posted by steeve steel
      Clem was used in cycling... Need we say more?
      Clen was found in Contador's system in two consecutive days of his championship performance. He said he ate meat the night before his performance to only have .05. There were never any cases in that year to be consistent with his theory, and by eating steak to only get .05 they rules out he was flushing it out the night before.

      So was Canelo enhancing his stamina for the tour dates before starting VADA or camp?

      Did Contador stop using Clen to constantly burn fat or improve his stamina the days before performance and flush it out compared to Nelo's 78 days? Hoe can 90 days away improve Stamina or breathing!? Since when is Canelo fat?

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      • AKAcronym
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        #13
        Originally posted by PhillyshellDef
        Some are suggesting now that GGG's legs are fading per braces on his knees while training. Expect a Sergio Martinez or Heilland narrative to save Golovkin. "Oh his knees were shot and Canelo cheated with Clen months out and cheated with wraps."
        Where'd you hear this?

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        • PhillyshellDef
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          #14
          Originally posted by AKAcronym
          Where'd you hear this?
          Counterpunch Boxing channel, a GGG channel said he has an inside source. Check his latest vid. Though that guy lies, we'll just have to wait and see

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          • kafkod
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            #15
            Originally posted by PhillyshellDef
            VADA, with high profile stars and competitive promotional teams, start at 2 months in testing to the fight.

            Canelo was able to slip most of Golovkin's shots, assuming that he was was optimized or as heavy as his team could gamble, and we all saw how Canelo chose to bulk up in preparation for 160 yet starting with JCC. It's hard to imagine that Canelo would have a hard time from 155-160 since Smith.

            On the contrary, Canelo's team would've chose to take in less protein intake since Sept. of last year. Meaning, Canelo could come in around 157-158 with speed as the advantage as well as stamina. Draining from the weigh in from 78 days out, how does Clen help that?

            Canelo would need Clen in his system Starting in April to continue stamina optimization, assuming the "help to breathe theory" would benefit Alvarez. If the theory is that "you cant fix stamina" then how does Clen help a boxer, assuming he was using it before the testing.
            How does breathing for just one month in high altitude help come May 2018? How does January or February help Canelo when the real grind comes in camp starting 60 days to the fight, all which VADA has been testing CANELO for years.

            Nobody cares that Golovkin started 2 weeks as well as Lemeiux for their fight. What was in Gennady's system 78 days out before Lemeiux?

            Clen traces and cases have always been instances during in game performances not the off season. As in cyclists like Armstrong or Contador that flushed it out of their systems the days before performance.

            Then Abel Sanchez talking about wraps just recently. Seems like HBO are just cooking hype for the rematch for their own game. Canelo and GGG is all they have left and are desperate. With ESPN at #2 and Showtime #1.

            # you cant help stamina....
            # but clen can 3 months out? ..sure...
            # Canelo never looks fat in his consistent social media pics
            Originally posted by PhillyshellDef
            The theory is that Clen would help Canelo's stamina. How? Canelo has looked the same for years. If he put on more weight for the rematch, how would that help his performance if he was criticized to gas out? even if they wanted to use the IV-gate theory or Contador, then wouldn't it benefit VADA and Loeffler had they found ultra low cases of Clen in Nelo's system the week of the fight? People casually ignore VADA testing.
            Originally posted by PhillyshellDef
            Counterpunch Boxing channel, a GGG channel said he has an inside source. Check his latest vid. Though that guy lies, we'll just have to wait and see

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            • AKAcronym
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              #16
              Originally posted by PhillyshellDef
              Counterpunch Boxing channel, a GGG channel said he has an inside source. Check his latest vid. Though that guy lies, we'll just have to wait and see
              Just listened to a few minutes of it. Not convincing enough but yeah we'll have to see in the coming weeks.

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              • PhillyshellDef
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                #17
                Originally posted by AKAcronym
                Just listened to a few minutes of it. Not convincing enough but yeah we'll have to see in the coming weeks.
                GGG was hella fast shadow boxing in the outdoor public workout last year. He was just as fast in the fight. The theory is that his legs were messed up which is why he couldn't attack the body. Perhaps Sanchez is really worried for this rematch. But hey, with the money they can make i doubt they care nor does GGG. However, Floyd's return could seriously affect the PPV buys.

                Floyd in the UFC branding is a whole new look and imagine how many UFC fans want Floyd to tap out! Im thinking 6 million PPV

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PhillyshellDef
                  Clen was found in Contador's system in two consecutive days of his championship performance. He said he ate meat the night before his performance to only have .05. There were never any cases in that year to be consistent with his theory, and by eating steak to only get .05 they rules out he was flushing it out the night before.

                  So was Canelo enhancing his stamina for the tour dates before starting VADA or camp?

                  Did Contador stop using Clen to constantly burn fat or improve his stamina the days before performance and flush it out compared to Nelo's 78 days? Hoe can 90 days away improve Stamina or breathing!? Since when is Canelo fat?
                  VADA just tested Canelo twice last week and passed both times...H

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                  • PhillyshellDef
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    VADA just tested Canelo twice last week and passed both times...H
                    Yup.

                    But everybody should focus on the bigger picture. Floyd gonna do 6 mill PPV this May

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PhillyshellDef
                      Yup.

                      But everybody should focus on the bigger picture. Floyd gonna do 6 mill PPV this May
                      Whos he gonna fight???

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