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  • Shadoww702
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    #71
    Originally posted by Butch.McRae
    ??? I thought you watch boxing regularly lol you do realize the guys like Charles Martin and Takam got 5 and 6 million. Maybe this is a troll lol
    I do but your forgetting who the A side is and who has most of the belts. Has Wilder sold out all his fights??? Has he ever put 80,000 fans in seats???

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    • Kezzer
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      #72
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      Wilder shouldn't have to do sh^t to make this fight bigger.
      This kind of response is also why many Americans don’t understand why even 60/40 Joshua could well choose to turn down.

      Let’s face it if Joshua actually stood firm and said I’ll offer 30% and I won’t fight him until he accepts it; wilder would still be seen by many as ducking were he not to accept afterall it would easily be trebling or more his highest ever payday elsewhere.

      Doesnt meant that offer will happen but Joshua is so much bigger than wilder that he can offer what he wants to be fair; and his legacy isn’t really affected given he has only done half the fights of wilder and still has 5+ years of fighting potential

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      • bori84
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        #73
        Originally posted by oscar9992
        Wilder doesn't deserve 40% split at this moment. 30-35 at max.


        Dude made 2,1 million vs Ortiz.

        Joshua made 20 millions in his last 2 fights & will get the same 20 millions vs Parker again.


        This is how boxing work.
        That's NOT how it works, it's definitely not that simple. Parker made only $1.55M in his last fight, yet is getting 30%-35% of the split, is not as popular as Wilder and is considered the low end of the heavyweight champions in the division. A Wilder vs Joshua fight would be massive due to the US vs UK scenario playing a big part in all of it so yes, 60-40, maybe even 55-45, makes sense. It's not just Joshua in there, there is another fighter in there with him every time and Wilder brings a lot to the table. I don't believe Wilder has been promoted as well as I think he could've been but, again, Wilder vs Joshua will easily sell due to BOTH fighters, not just Joshua as many of you seem to think.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #74
          Already changed from accepting "any" offer as long as he gets the same in the rematch.

          A good chance it gets made now though.

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            #75
            Originally posted by bori84
            That's NOT how it works, it's definitely not that simple. Parker made only $1.55M in his last fight, yet is getting 30%-35% of the split, is not as popular as Wilder and is considered the low end of the heavyweight champions in the division. A Wilder vs Joshua fight would be massive due to the US vs UK scenario playing a big part in all of it so yes, 60-40, maybe even 55-45, makes sense. It's not just Joshua in there, there is another fighter in there with him every time and Wilder brings a lot to the table. I don't believe Wilder has been promoted as well as I think he could've been but, again, Wilder vs Joshua will easily sell due to BOTH fighters, not just Joshua as many of you seem to think.
            That's not how it works either. We all know he's overpaying Parker. Other fighters shouldn't demand to be overpaid too. Get what you deserve.

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            • bori84
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              #76
              Originally posted by Kezzer
              This kind of response is also why many Americans don’t understand why even 60/40 Joshua could well choose to turn down.

              Let’s face it if Joshua actually stood firm and said I’ll offer 30% and I won’t fight him until he accepts it; wilder would still be seen by many as ducking were he not to accept afterall it would easily be trebling or more his highest ever payday elsewhere.

              Doesnt meant that offer will happen but Joshua is so much bigger than wilder that he can offer what he wants to be fair; and his legacy isn’t really affected given he has only done half the fights of wilder and still has 5+ years of fighting potential
              Legacy isn't affected? This kind of British response is why you have someone like Calzaghe recognized only in the UK, yet he had good potential. Most people here, and many other countries, have no clue who he is because of that mentality.
              AJ not fighting DW would be bad for boxing. Not saying right now but definitely within the next year or so. Provided that Wilder keeps winning, AJ NEEDS Wilder as much as Wilder needs AJ. Wake up and quit being delusional; legacy isn't about the money, it's about who you fought.

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                #77
                This is a start but I doubt it works like that, personally that should be the deal. But market-wise I doubt Team Joshua would accept that deal. If he loses to Wilder then Wilder would have all the belts, so as the undisputed champ defending his belts he should get 60%. But Joshua team would just turn around and say they still bring the most money to the table (Win or lose). This is going to be a difficult fight to negotiate.

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                • NaijaD
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  Thats not what this is about. Its not a **** measuring contest. Well to Joshua & Wilder its not. To Joshua & Wilder fanboys or people who don't get how this works it might be.



                  I'm not surprised you don't understand. Plenty of cats don't seem to grasp the money & how the symbiotic part of this sport works with revenue.



                  LOL wut?!?!?! What wonky math has you believing these things even matter.



                  I don't think it gots anything to do with nationality. I think some mfers don't understand this business.

                  Takam got 25% & $5.5M/USD & he was nobody from nowhere. Parker is getting 32% & likely $8M-$10M & is considered the lesser title holder by most pundits. Wilder is the 2nd best guy in the division & 40% is PERFECTLY REASONABLE and you'll see when Hearn lines up with this thought as well when the numbers get talked about & released. Might end up being 38% or some sh^t, but Wilder is extremely likely to touch 8 digits in this fight.
                  Of course nationality has everything to do with it, Golovkin was greedy for wanting 35%, yet Wilder deserves 40%..... If the roles were reversed and Wilder was 10x the draw AJ was then all these arrogant americans would be singing a different tune without a doubt. Half of these fools thought Pac should have taken the flat fee offer from Floyd in 2011/12 because it was "more than he had ever made before". There's always nationalism involved when it's a US fighter, only Americans don't see that.

                  Nothing is wonky about the maths... when Hearn starts mentioning those same numbers as to why Wilder won't get 40% then I'll bump you. The fight will probably get made closer to 35% mark.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by bori84
                    Legacy isn't affected? This kind of British response is why you have someone like Calzaghe recognized only in the UK, yet he had good potential. Most people here, and many other countries, have no clue who he is because of that mentality.
                    AJ not fighting DW would be bad for boxing. Not saying right now but definitely within the next year or so. Provided that Wilder keeps winning, AJ NEEDS Wilder as much as Wilder needs AJ. Wake up and quit being delusional; legacy isn't about the money, it's about who you fought.
                    Only a fool would believe that. Joshua is universally recognised #1 and is making 15+ mil a fight. Wilder needs Joshua a hell of a lot more than Joshua needs him.

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                    • bori84
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      That's not how it works either. We all know he's overpaying Parker. Other fighters shouldn't demand to be overpaid too. Get what you deserve.
                      That's not how it works but good try. While AJ would be taking a smaller piece of the entire pie than he's accustomed to, he would still be making a lot more than ever before by fighting Wilder. That's what is looked at, the entire picture. Tunnel vision and tunnel-mindness is a b!tch!

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