This is so ****** its not even worth debating whether canelo took/takes PED's!!!

[nacho daddy]

Why are posters that don't even know the difference between VADA and WADA discussing this topic?

what the hell is the difference between VADA WADA? who gives a phuck? what matters is clenelo is juiced and is paying his way out of it and it is working

[WesternChamp]

wait til he gets popped then say he'll take any and every test there is. LOL. no shiiet. what is he suppose to say? LOL.

[travestyny]

Try reading, dude. Robert made a whole thread about Canelo didn't violate wada rules. He's been talking nonstop about 1nanogram being a limit and Canelo being below the limit.

Because he is referring to what Eichner told you and you are ignoring it. He's explained it to you over and over.

“As Daniel Eichner, director of SMRTL, the Wada-accredited lab that conducted the tests stated in his letter (on Monday): ‘These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination’."

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Try to use your brain.

No one is saying there is a threshold. It's about fairness. The experts, after looking into the matter and realizing there is an issue, have decided that he has a valid claim that this was not done maliciously.

And your question has been answered by WADA. There is no threshold but there is a valid reason that this was probably not done purposely. They caught it early on, said his story is supported by the amount they found, and this is his warning that he has to avoid meat from Mexico the rest of the way. It's not rocket science.

See, the problem with this line of thinking is ignoring the fact that the levels he tested for, whether it, "falls in line" with contaminated meat--- it also falls in line for an individual doing a Clenbuterol cycle. I'll post the medical study showing this if you want.

The other problem with Clenbuterol, is that is has a short half-life, about 36 hours. It takes around 6 hours for it to reach the maximum levels in the plasma.

There is literally no reason not to cycle clenbuterol off-season if you're a Mexican boxer. You can use the, "contaminated" meat excuse, despite the fact that Canelo's diets during the Chavez Jr. and Liam Smith fights indicate he only eats lean cuts of chicken/fish, and not beef, which he even stated himself.

Of course, when your fight is estimated to generate over $50 million, it's easy to see why a little hush money and power to influence things behind scenes wouldn't go your way.



So how do you determine Canelo is a cheat vs. not a cheat, if he get's excused from having Clen detected in his system? There's no way to travel back in time, and if Canelo was cycling Clen when he first took the test on Feb 17., it would make plenty of sense that he would stop right away after that. I would be surprised if any drug cheat would keep using a banned substance even after it was detected once before. There is nothing VADA can do at this point, if the "contaminated meat" excuse gets a pass.

[nacho daddy]

damm.. got'em!! LOL!!!

"Dude, the head of a WADA lab has defended him"

I am white. wanna try to kill me now?

[GGG Gloveking]

Dude, the head of a WADA lab has defended him. I don't see how he falls into one of those categories. I guess it's possible he is a GGG hater....?????

Are you trying to split hairs by saying you didn't say the head of WADA?

[GGG Gloveking]

Because he is referring to what Eichner told you and you are ignoring it. He's explained it to you over and over.

“As Daniel Eichner, director of SMRTL, the Wada-accredited lab that conducted the tests stated in his letter (on Monday): ‘These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination’."

Except that's not what he links at all. He links a response to a German documentary

[Robbie Barrett]

Are you trying to split hairs by saying you didn't say the head of WADA?

Try ****ing reading. It'll help you out. I promise.

[bigjavi973]

they use that to fatten cattle in mexico.....

everyone should know that by now including canelo smh.....



if its for losing weight.........

so should he be a smw or light heavy?

[travestyny]

See, the problem with this line of thinking is ignoring the fact that the levels he tested for, whether it, "falls in line" with contaminated meat--- it also falls in line for an individual doing a Clenbuterol cycle. I'll post the medical study showing this if you want.

The other problem with Clenbuterol, is that is has a short half-life, about 36 hours. It takes around 6 hours for it to reach the maximum levels in the plasma.

There is literally no reason not to cycle clenbuterol off-season if you're a Mexican boxer. You can use the, "contaminated" meat excuse, despite the fact that Canelo's diets during the Chavez Jr. and Liam Smith fights indicate he only eats lean cuts of chicken/fish, and not beef, which he even stated himself.

Of course, when your fight is estimated to generate over $50 million, it's easy to see why a little hush money and power to influence things behind scenes wouldn't go your way.



So how do you determine Canelo is a cheat vs. not a cheat, if he get's excused from having Clen detected in his system? There's no way to travel back in time, and if Canelo was cycling Clen when he first took the test on Feb 17., it would make plenty of sense that he would stop right away after that. I would be surprised if any drug cheat would keep using a banned substance even after it was detected once before. There is nothing VADA can do at this point, if the "contaminated meat" excuse gets a pass.

And what you are ignoring is WADA is about fairness. In this situation it makes sense to give him the benefit of the doubt because the levels are within range of what is expected for meat contamination. Also, are they basing it on other tests as well where, if he were abusing Clen, it would have been found at a higher level. I don't know.

What's great is that the lab found it 2 months out, and now there will be no excuse. It's very simple. It's unfortunate that they have to deal with this issue and they realize that fairness puts them in a rough spot, but in this case the issue came up early enough that this is much ado about nothing.