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  • Boxing Scene
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    #51
    100 percent Joseph Parker get's his head knocked clean off by round 3 with Wilder. No chance he wins at all.

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    • sotgoda
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      #52
      Originally posted by Jkp
      Good point . Can't wait to see aj gassed and getting battered around n the ring
      AJ's stamina is probably not why he will lose to Wilder. It is his over aggressiveness and textbook style. He will probably try to come out guns blazing against Wilder and then get countered and dropped. Wilder will not let AJ recover when he has him in trouble.

      If AJ comes out patiently, he may gas out and then stamina becomes the issue in the 2nd half of the fight.

      I think the former is likelier because I think his coach will tell him to try to take out Wilder earlier (due to AJ's suspect stamina) which will play into Wilder's hand.

      Wilder just matches up better to AJ. He is a foil to him.

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        #53
        Originally posted by landotter
        And if the 5th round, when Ortiz went down the first time, was even 15 seconds longer there wouldn't have been a 7th round.

        Those pesky 3 minute rounds just NEVER fit a narrative, do they?
        Exactly. Ortiz was dazed in the 5th round but the count and bell saved him. Wilder was ready to pounce on him then. If Wilder hurts you and he has 30 seconds or more left, your chances of surviving are slim to none.

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        • sotgoda
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          #54
          Originally posted by landotter
          Joshua is just a more patient, focused fighter. Wilder is who he is, and fights an undisciplined wide open style. It is a perfect style..... for A.J. to pick apart.

          Ortiz was absolutely picking him to pieces. He was winning on every card. Wilder got him. I do not think a prime Joshua loses as I think he will handle Wilder and his pressure better.
          Maybe you have it backwards, bro. It is easier to beat a textbook fighter. This is what will make Fury and Wilder hell for AJ. How do you prepare for Wilder?

          Ortiz nullified Wilder's jab because of the lefty and his ring craft. Please, let's stop acting like AJ has the ring craftiness that Ortiz does - AJ doesn't. AJ does not move his head. He is a come forward kind of fighter and cannot fight on the backfoot.

          How then does he beat Wilder? He will have to catch Wilder and destabilize him for AJ to win. AJ's chances of winning are slimmer in my opinion than Wilder's. Wilder can win early or late. AJ can only win early - again my opinion.

          The hype around AJ will be his downfall. Winning an olympic gold medal is why he is being hyped up the most. It is easier to support and justify but looking at the match ups, AJ's most important advantages (his compact shots and combinations) require a stationary target and someone who prefers to fight up close. Wilder is neither of those - prefers range and is not stationary.

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            #55
            Originally posted by SteveM
            His performance was actually detrimental to him getting big paychecks from here on in - he will be avoided by all but someone very ambitious to get a shot fast - maybe Povetkin. It's a shame he has only gotten a title shot now - he would have been lethal 4-5 years ago.
            Yeah I see what you mean but there’s a few fringe heavyweights he could fight. For example the loser of the Browne/Whyte fight, loser of the Joshua/Parker fight. Could fight David Haye if he beats Bellew. All those fighters have few options

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              #56
              As long at English fight fans will pay big money to see Joshua fight tomato cans or already beaten old fighters with name recognition he'll never get in the ring with Wilder. Honestly the best fighter Joshua has ever faced as a pro will be Parker in his next fight. The only reason this is happening is because Parker was considered the safe bet because of his size and style. I fully expect Parker to give Joshua a MUCH harder fight than he's expecting and I'd love to see Parker win only because I believe that will lead to a title unification fight. If Joshua wins we're gonna see more of the Adonis Stevenson type of champion out of Joshua. All talk and full avoidance of any credible defenses unless backed into a corner. Come on Parker!

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                #57
                Originally posted by Boxing Scene
                100 percent Joseph Parker get's his head knocked clean off by round 3 with Wilder. No chance he wins at all.
                His shoulder down when throwing a jab is just inviting a big right

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by bluemax
                  As long at English fight fans will pay big money to see Joshua fight tomato cans or already beaten old fighters with name recognition he'll never get in the ring with Wilder. Honestly the best fighter Joshua has ever faced as a pro will be Parker in his next fight. The only reason this is happening is because Parker was considered the safe bet because of his size and style. I fully expect Parker to give Joshua a MUCH harder fight than he's expecting and I'd love to see Parker win only because I believe that will lead to a title unification fight. If Joshua wins we're gonna see more of the Adonis Stevenson type of champion out of Joshua. All talk and full avoidance of any credible defenses unless backed into a corner. Come on Parker!
                  I don't think that is Joshua who wants to duck Wilder, but Hearn definitely wants

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                    #59
                    Money First

                    Originally posted by Just looking
                    I don't think that is Joshua who wants to duck Wilder, but Hearn definitely wants

                    Agreed!! I think It's almost always the promoters who cause these issues. I think if it was left up to the fighters alone we'd see a lot more title unifications. I truly believe both Joshua and Wilder both believe they are the best but like I said as long as english fans will pay millions to watch Joshua fight tomato cans Hearn will always go for the safe bet to keep the money train going, in his mind it's all about the money which I guess it really is

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                      #60
                      Wilder ended the fight brilliantly, and did well to still be in there after the 7th. That being said, he can turn fights on their head out of nothing like he did in the 5th with the droppage of Ortiz. Aside from that, he was outboxed for most of the rounds and it was a shock that the judges had him up on the cards.

                      I think boxers will fancy their chances quite a bit, but they have to be aware of his right hand. He showed some good punch variety once Ortiz was hurt but that right is the shot that makes it all go downhill for his opponents.

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