Comments Thread For: Wilder: Me Beating Ortiz Better Than Joshua Stopping Klitschko

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  • Boksfan
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    #31
    And here he is running his mouth again, how can one respect this guy?

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    • _original_
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      #32
      Anybody with any sense and no bias will agree with Wilder here.


      Klit had already been done and had just been 12-0'd by Fury. AJ going life and death with him says more about AJ than about anything else. Wilder would've have mauled that version of Wlad in dos rounds.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #33
        Absolutely deluded.what's Ortiz best win compared to klitschko? Whats he actually done that's so great? Klitschko ran the damn division for about 10 years (or it felt like it) and if you wanna talk about age, compare what he looked like to what Ortiz looked like.

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        • MrClutch85
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          #34
          Luis Ortiz is a better fight than Klitschko that fought AJ.Legacy wise AJ beating Klitschko is a between win Wilder had a more tougher difficult opponent in Ortiz.

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          • Mindgames
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            #35
            Just one look at the difference in the gas tank between Klitschko and Ortiz tells you this is silly talk. Not to mention that Ortiz best win was Jennings and that was on drugs.

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            • Mindgames
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              #36
              Originally posted by _original_
              Anybody with any sense and no bias will agree with Wilder here.


              Klit had already been done and had just been 12-0'd by Fury. AJ going life and death with him says more about AJ than about anything else. Wilder would've have mauled that version of Wlad in dos rounds.
              No, anyone without bias could easily see that the more experienced and accomplished Klitschko was in far better shape as well as being a far better puncher than the guy with high blood pressure. Still, it's a thing with alot of fans from the USA, that they only back their fighters.Just don't pretend you're being objective.

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              • StrangerInTown
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                #37
                If you can't respect Wilder's courage and character in the face of what was surely imminent defeat, you ain't human. It was a massive triumph of the will.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MrClutch85
                  Luis Ortiz is a better fight than Klitschko that fought AJ.Legacy wise AJ beating Klitschko is a between win Wilder had a more tougher difficult opponent in Ortiz.
                  Yeah, just imagine Wlad labouring against Malik Scott and Dave Allen. Just look at the difference between the record, conditioning and power of Klitschko and Ortiz. Pretend youre not American.

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                  • miniq
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                    #39
                    Furys win over Wlad > AJ's win over Wlad and Wilders win over Ortiz.

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                    • Tatabanya
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Macho reply?? For saying what you said was ******?? It WAS ******. Nothing macho about that. Haha.
                      First of all you called me ******, not what I said. However, I find your replies more ****** (and thus self-explanatory in regard to the sender) than what I wrote in the first place, a matter of opinions as always.

                      But, limiting myself to sheer facts:

                      Joshua was knocked down and almost out by an aged Klitschko, who was way past his prime and had been ridiculed by Tyson Fury (who I rate next to nil in the great scheme of heavyweight things). He came back and won, of course.

                      Wilder was almost knocked out by a dangerous fighter who is old just in age but is still able to beat younger fighters. Wilder weathered the storm and won, too.

                      Comparing the two wins - I mean the single fights, not the careers - I see Wilder's more significant than Joshua's. Now please don't tell me the usual Klitschko story (long dominant reign, etc.). He was little more than a statue in his last fights. This notwithstanding, he struck Joshua in the way everybody saw.

                      Though - as I said - I like Joshua more than Wilder, including the outside-the-ring antics, I have an inkling that had Joshua been cornered by Ortiz as Wilder was last night, he may not have escaped alive.
                      Last edited by Tatabanya; 03-04-2018, 02:38 PM.

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