Comments Thread For: Wilder: Me Beating Ortiz Better Than Joshua Stopping Klitschko

[Gillie]

Ortiz doesn't have klitchkos legacy or power but I think he is definitely a better all around fighter.

I don't know of he is a better all around fighter than Klitschko. He may be slicker and craftier but I wouldn't say better.

[HarvardBlue]

Joshua beating Klitschko is a better win but Wilder is entitled to that opinion.

Joshua was still a novice with 18 fights when he fought Klitschko. If Klitschko hadn't lost to Fury people would've thought Joshua was on a suicide mission. So it is a bigger win but Wilder proved a lot by beating Ortiz. If the knock on Wilder was the he hadn't beaten anyone (which was a ridiculous thing to say), beating Ortiz should quell that kind of talk.

[joseph5620]

And this is part of the reason no one can take this clown seriously and ge him any sort of credit.

You wouldn't give him credit regardless. Wrong complexion for your protection lol.

[cameltoe]

I know who i’d rather fight.

[volt]

oh yeah, of course it was...damn, this guy has a massive inferiority complex.

[joseph5620]

This, Ortiz was the signature win that Wilder needed and he got it but let’s no go overboard. Ortiz will likely go down as “what might’ve been” type of guy where as Wlad proved his pedigree. Also I’m absolutely sure the Wlad that fought AJ would dominate Ortiz.

I'm not absolutely sure about that. If Bryant Jennings could go 12 with Klitschko I don't see why Ortiz couldn't at least do the same thing with better results.

Why do people pretend that Wladimir was the same fighter he had always been lol? He was clearly diminished when he fought Joshua and it's not debatable either.

[cameltoe]

I bet you half the people on here who are trying to claim that Ortiz is a better win than Klitschko thought that Wlad was going to expose AJ.

Guaranteed.

[Sid-Knee]

First of all you called me ******, not what I said. However, I find your replies more ****** (and thus self-explanatory in regard to the sender) than what I wrote in the first place, a matter of opinions as always.

But, limiting myself to sheer facts:

Joshua was knocked down and almost out by an aged Klitschko, who was way past his prime and had been ridiculed by Tyson Fury (who I rate next to nil in the great scheme of heavyweight things). He came back and won, of course.

Wilder was almost knocked out by a dangerous fighter who is old just in age but is still able to beat younger fighters. Wilder weathered the storm and won, too.

Comparing the two wins - I mean the single fights, not the careers - I see Wilder's more significant than Joshua's. Now please don't tell me the usual Klitschko story (long dominant reign, etc.). He was little more than a statue in his last fights. This notwithstanding, he struck Joshua in the way everybody saw.

Though - as I said - I like Joshua more than Wilder, including the outside-the-ring antics, I have an inkling that had Joshua been cornered by Ortiz as Wilder was last night, he may not have escaped alive.

Just like I said, it was ******. Believe that nonsense all you want. Just expect people to laugh at you when you come out with mad things.

[cameltoe]

I'm not absolutely sure about that. If Bryant Jennings could go 12 with Klitschko I don't see why Ortiz couldn't at least do the same thing with better results.

Why do people pretend that Wladimir was the same fighter he had always been lol? He was clearly diminished when he fought Joshua and it's not debatable either.

Why are you lot trying to claim that Ortiz was all of a sudden one of the best fighters on the planet?

And acting like he didn’t have Wilder finished in there?

All of a sudden it’s this mega impressive victory over some ATG heavyweight.

Truth is Ortiz has never beaten anyone, is old, out of shape, has a heart condition, way past prime, has been inactive, AND had Wilder so badly hurt the ref should have stopped it in the 7th.

But yeah, a better win than Wlad...

[Madison Boxing]

Lol - looks dont win a boxing fight, or make a good boxer. Typical AJ fanboy comment.

Klithcko use to run the division, correct, but not when Joshua cherry picked him, by that time he was old and beaten with no titles. So your comments are just rubbish to create hype.

no what im saying is people say thats an old version of wlad but as far as im concerned he looked a whole lot more fresh than ortiz did, and to be honest id be surprised if ortiz was actually younger than wlad. People say that wlad had slowed down (which is true) but **** me, what about ortiz? He was so poor against scott and allen that he killed any hype that was surrounding a joshua clash.