Comments Thread For: Wilder: Me Beating Ortiz Better Than Joshua Stopping Klitschko

[MisanthropicNY]

Windmill has the technical boxing ability of Conor McGregor.

[joesaiditstrue]

indeed. To like one means you HAVE to hate the other.
I don't really get this. Unless one's related or a personal friend of these boxers I don't understand why people get so heated about it.

Another point is: even if Wilder doesn't believe in his own words do you guys really, really, really believe he would say "Nah, AJ's victory was far better".

come on, guys.

It's called tribalism. It's why politics in the US are so absolutely ****ed right now.

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Eh, I don't know if that's a better win or not. Klitschko ruled the division for more than a decade. Wilder's stock has gone up I think but I still rate Klitschko as a better win than Ortiz.

But that wasn't the klitschko joshua beat. That Klitschko was beaten by Tyson.

[Jkp]

Really. Wlad didn’t fight like that though did he?

So tell us what’s so great about Ortiz again?

His blood pressure? Certainly not his record.

He unbeaten doe!!

Ortiz is special enough to make AJ **** scared of him.

[Jkp]

no what im saying is people say thats an old version of wlad but as far as im concerned he looked a whole lot more fresh than ortiz did, and to be honest id be surprised if ortiz was actually younger than wlad. People say that wlad had slowed down (which is true) but **** me, what about ortiz? He was so poor against scott and allen that he killed any hype that was surrounding a joshua clash.

AJ had plenty off chances to fight ortiz, they even fought on same card in uk against horrible mismatched opponents . AJ always been scared of Ortiz. Ortiz moves and boxes like a boxer. AJ would struggle terribly against him or anyone with movement of a boxer. It would be like a better version of takam but south paw and a foot taller.

[Sun_Tzu]

But that wasn't the klitschko joshua beat. That Klitschko was beaten by Tyson.

I dont agree with that, I think we saw a better Wlad against Joshua than we saw against Tyson. Wlad was hungry again, he had been on top for a very long time when he fought Tyson. It doesnt matter really the triangle theory **** doesnt work and has never worked. Ill call this now so there is no question where I stand. Joshua will KO Wilder inside of 4 rounds. I get people who were already Wilder fans are excited after saturday night and you should be, He beat atleast in my opinion the 3rd best hw in the world and I still hold Ortiz there. The difference is Joshua is going to come after this guy and he isnt going to let him sit back and load up. Joshua has skills and is learning every fight, the Klitchko fight taught him a lot as did this fight for Wiulder. What we are about to see is the tables turned, Wilder will be the old man against a young,strong monstrous puncher.

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[Lemonhead_Jeff]

People can call him "Windmill" and disparage his technique, but Wilder has done nothing but win and stop every man he's ever faced. There are some of you that will never give him the credit that he's due, but even those people have to be starting to understand that Wilder is not the mere 'flash in the pan' that they portray him as.

Was Wilder's victory over Ortiz 'better' than Joshua's victory over Klitschko? That's for individual fans to decide for themselves, but you can't deny that Ortiz is younger than Klitschko, he was not coming-off a loss like Klitschko was, and unlike Klitschko, Ortiz had never been knocked-out before.

Joshua's fight against Klitschko was more exciting to watch than Wilder vs Ortiz, but Joshua had a harder time beating a 41-year-old Klitschko than Corrie Sanders did when he demolished a prime Klitschko more than a decade earlier. He also had a harder time beating Klitschko than Lamon Brewster or Ross Puritty did. It's difficult to argue that Joshua beat a better version of Klitschko than those guys did, especially since Klitschko was coming-off an embarrassing decision loss to Tyson Fury that saw him throw among the least amount of punches ever recorded in the history of heavyweight title fights. It would not be completely unfair to say that Joshua only beat Tyson Fury's leftovers.

Both Joshua and Wilder had to show a lot of character to hang-on and beat older men in career-defining fights. Joshua has the seemingly more well-rounded technique, but he looked lethargic in his last fight and there are questions about his stamina. Wilder is seemingly more unorthodox and crude, but he seem to be gifted with devastating power and natural athleticism. A potential showdown between the two has reignited people's interest in the heavyweight division. It's going to be exciting!

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I dont agree with that, I think we saw a better Wlad against Joshua than we saw against Tyson. Wlad was hungry again, he had been on top for a very long time when he fought Tyson. It doesnt matter really the triangle theory **** doesnt work and has never worked. Ill call this now so there is no question where I stand. Joshua will KO Wilder inside of 4 rounds. I get people who were already Wilder fans are excited after saturday night and you should be, He beat atleast in my opinion the 3rd best hw in the world and I still hold Ortiz there. The difference is Joshua is going to come after this guy and he isnt going to let him sit back and load up. Joshua has skills and is learning every fight, the Klitchko fight taught him a lot as did this fight for Wiulder. What we are about to see is the tables turned, Wilder will be the old man against a young,strong monstrous puncher.

Bookmark it *****es

Bruh, save all that bs theories to your self . All you needed to say was you disagree With my statement that’s it .

[Deus]

Was Wilder's victory over Ortiz 'better' than Joshua's victory over Klitschko? That's for individual fans to decide for themselves, but you can't deny that Ortiz is younger than Klitschko, he was not coming-off a loss like Klitschko was, and unlike Klitschko, Ortiz had never been knocked-out before.

You're intentionally failing to highlight that although Klitschko is 'older' than Ortiz he was also much fitter, had better stamina and had more power than Ortiz?

Wilder's signature win is no better or worse than Joshua's.

[KING5TWENTY]

I would say its a lot better of a win given Wilder never got dropped and the klit fight was stopped early. Ortiz is techincally the best in the division. And if he cant beat Wilder know on can.