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  • #21
    How can you guys explain why Wilder gets outboxed ofen by mediocre boxers like Washington?

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    • #22
      Originally posted by _original_ View Post
      False.



      AJ dropped many rounds to a shot, shaky chinned, and old Wlad who was only operating with a basic 1-2 and could hardly pull the trigger. Still managed to confuse, drop, and nearly finish AJ. The same Wlad who was outboxed and nearly shut out against Fury.

      It's reasonable to say that Ortiz outboxes AJ and wins a UD.
      That Wlad would wipe the floor with Ortiz.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
        That Wlad would wipe the floor with Ortiz.
        That dude really comparing Wlad to Washington... lol


        And Washington was outboxing Wilder 5-0 before getting stopped.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
          That Wlad would wipe the floor with Ortiz.


          He doesn't win a round against Ortiz and you know it. And that version of Wlad gets blown out in a few rounds by Wilder. Deal wiff it.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by oscar9992 View Post
            That dude really comparing Wlad to Washington... lol


            And Washington was outboxing Wilder 5-0 before getting stopped.

            Strawman argument. Move on buddy.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by _original_ View Post
              He doesn't win a round against Ortiz and you know it. And that version of Wlad gets blown out in a few rounds by Wilder. Deal wiff it.
              If Wlad fought Wilder now i'd bet everything on Wlad. Wlad is all wrong for windmiller. He wouldn't get a sniff.

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              • #27
                Wilder fans be like Washington and Uber drivers are better boxers than Ali next

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                • #28
                  Klitschko is better boxer & hits much harder than Ortiz.






                  I am not even sure Ortiz is better than Povetkin at all. If he fought Povetkin in Russia he would get KO'd cold.
                  Last edited by oscar9992; 03-04-2018, 01:08 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                    If Wlad fought Wilder now i'd bet everything on Wlad. Wlad is all wrong for windmiller. He wouldn't get a sniff.
                    That Wlad was showing major signs or slipping even before Fury schooled him. He couldn't pull the trigger anymore and Wilder would jump all on him and windmill him into oblivion. Wilder with his style was all wrong for Klit, even a prime version. A guy who jumps all on him and tries to take him out was his kryptonite. It sure worked for guys like Brewster and Sanders who didn't have the power or killer instinct of Wilder.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by oscar9992 View Post
                      Klitschko is better boxer & hits much harder than Ortiz.






                      I am not even sure Ortiz is better than Povetkin at all. If he fought Povetkin in Russia he would get KO'd cold.

                      Prime Wlad hits harder than Ortiz, yes. More skilled, no. Wlad was just more effective with the style the great Emmanuel Steward molded for him.



                      Ortiz V Povetkin would be a great and logical fight, I'm with you on that.

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