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  • _original_
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    #11
    Originally posted by oscar9992
    Wilder is very average boxer who gets outboxed often... Washington was winning 5-0 before he got stopped.

    AJ barely loses rounds to that kinda boxers.
    False.



    AJ dropped many rounds to a shot, shaky chinned, and old Wlad who was only operating with a basic 1-2 and could hardly pull the trigger. Still managed to confuse, drop, and nearly finish AJ. The same Wlad who was outboxed and nearly shut out against Fury.

    It's reasonable to say that Ortiz outboxes AJ and wins a UD.

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    • Kezzer
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      #12
      Only one way to find out! After his fight with Wilder, Ortiz has definitely upped his profile so could happen.

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      • Jewish-Reptile
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        #13
        I don’t see Ortiz outboxing AJ not. Ortiz even this geriatric version we saw last night I doubt a prime Ortiz would fair better against AJ.

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        • _original_
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          #14
          Originally posted by Vinnykin
          Styles make fights, hard to see how Ortiz counter punch's the bigger, more powerful counter puncher, he'd be in danger coming forward flicking out a weak jab against a massive counter puncher like Joshua.

          Joshua's style is basic but hugely effective, he inches forward trying to time your jab and slip and counter you, Ortiz wouldn't be able to take the power and he'd be forced onto the back-foot like Takam was (a pressure fighter)
          AJ is not some great counter puncher, your argument is weak if that's your premise.

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          • _original_
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            #15
            Originally posted by Kezzer
            Only one way to find out! After his fight with Wilder, Ortiz has definitely upped his profile so could happen.
            True, Ortiz needs to get a decent opponent and then target somebody good to get back in the mix. Povetkin would be nice.

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            • zok310
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              #16
              Sure, but AJ youth and power would have made a difference last night

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #17
                He's a better boxer than Wilder too.

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                  #18
                  Joshua is basic but that is enough to outbox Wilder.... I mean Washington and Spzilka were doing it and AJ is a better boxer than both of them. Wilder gets outboxed almost every fight but no way Joshua can do that? Lol. That’s like saying Wilder can’t hurt Joshua. Dumb statement.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by _original_
                    That is true, I'm not discounting that at all. AJ s a force in his own right but he's not a skilled boxer like he's being made out to be by some.
                    He's more skilled than WIlder. Also bigger, faster, stronger than Ortiz.

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                    • oscar9992
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _original_
                      False.



                      AJ dropped many rounds to a shot, shaky chinned, and old Wlad who was only operating with a basic 1-2 and could hardly pull the trigger. Still managed to confuse, drop, and nearly finish AJ. The same Wlad who was outboxed and nearly shut out against Fury.

                      It's reasonable to say that Ortiz outboxes AJ and wins a UD.

                      Are you comparing Wlad to Washington?

                      Washington is below average boxer who gopt KO'd Baby Miller, and he actually outboxing Wilder 5-0 before getting KO'd in 6'th.

                      Klitschko in his prime barely lost rounds. lol

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